Looks like Buds is putting up ACR pricing.

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Yea, maybe still too high for what you get. :mad: But at least they're not listed at the $3000 mark that some were saying they would be.
 
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That would still be 167.00 mark up per year or 250.00 per lb.:rolleyes:

Had a LOT of promise when they unveiled it a few years ago...Turning out to be just that,a lot of promise.

I was quite excited about the Masada...the ACR,not so much.Better name...more $$$:rolleyes:. We shall see but I hold little hope for it at this point.
 
I'd also be wary of that "Price is subject to change" comment.

In any case, don't have a lot of use for a $2,048 basic 5.56 semi-auto.

For ~$1,250, I can have a Bravo Company midlength with MIAD, CTR and MOE furniture, a BCM charging handle, and Troy irons.

Let's see... the advantages the Bushmaster ACR claims over this rig are quick change barrel, ambidextrous controls, mystery coating that is supposed to increase parts life and a monolithic upper rail.

Ambi safety for BCM: $25
Magpul BAD: $30
Ambi-mag release $96
Ambi-controls sub-total: $151

Daniel Defense Omega Rail (uninterrupted free-float quadrail system, not just top rail): $269

OK, so at $1,670, I have the same features as a basic Bushmaster ACR; but I am a pound lighter, am using a proven reliable platform, and have a 1:7 cold-hammer forged barrel instead of a 1:9. I also have an adjustable stock instead of a fixed stock.

Of course, instead of a quick change barrel, I have to replace the entire upper receiver to change calibers; but it is just as quick and I can actually do caliber changes now instead of some undetermined time in the future.

What about the special Bushmaster mystery coating? Let's say it doubles the life of the barrel and bolt over a BCM shot-peened, MPI bolt and cold-hammer forged barrel

Spare BCM BFH 16" mid barrel and bolt: $370

Now our prices are almost equal: $2,040 for the BCM with spare barrel and bolt vs. $2,048 for the ACR from Bud's (assuming they go at that price).

So, it looks to me like Bushmaster needs to show me that:

A) The special coating at least doubles the usable life span of the bolt and barrel as compared to the BCM midlength BFH barrel and bolt

B) The ACR meets or exceeds the reliability of the BCM mid.

C) 1:7 cold hammer forged barrel

D) Lose a pound of weight

If they can do all those things, then the price Bud's is giving is at the high end; but within an acceptable range for the features offered compared to what is already available right now.
 
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Sigh. Stupid phone interface.

The ACR still brings things to the table that no AR can...the problem is that as time goes on it's bringing less and costing more.

This has turned from a "gotta have it, if it works" item to a "may buy it if it doesn't suck, the price drops, and they put out more options" item.

Too bad.

Mike
 
Sigh. Stupid phone interface.

The ACR still brings things to the table that no AR can...the problem is that as time goes on it's bringing less and costing more.

This has turned from a "gotta have it, if it works" item to a "may buy it if it doesn't suck, the price drops, and they put out more options" item.

Too bad.

Mike
 
The ACR stil brings something to the table that the AR doesn't
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Limousine service for Bushmaster executives? ;)

In any case, before the ACR can bring anything to the table, it will have to work. We already know (via the Bushmaster rep at AR15.com) that the reason the plastic and aluminium 16" barrel carbine ballooned up to 8.2lbs is because the earlier, lighter versions were not durable enough for military use. So that indicates to me that reliability may not be a foregone conclusion.

Now I understand ;)
 
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I didn't mean for this to turn into an ACR bashing. Oh well, so be it.
I'm taking a wait and see attitude myself.
 
Bart Roberts-

I don't disagree. Reliability and durability are key, and can only be determined through actual use.

As to what it brings, a non-sucky charging handle placement and the ability to fold the stock. No, I don't think that these, in and of themselves, warrant the extra $$$$$. We'll have to see what happens to pricing and options as time goes on, along with durability/reliability.

I'm sure not going to go be an early adopter now. There's no point.

Mike
 
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