M&P 22, Ruger sr 22 or Walther p22?

[doubleh]

I used to have the little Walther. It never gave a minute's trouble and shot a lot of different brands of ammo. The only reason I don't still have it is that the #2 grandson wanted one badly and they just weren't available. So grandpa took pity on him. He still has it and it's still going great. This is over a few years time span.

I missed the Walther but when the little Ruger came out I decided to try one to to see what it was. It also shoots whatever brand of ammo is loaded in it without a hitch and has had no mechanical problems either. Getting close to a year now with it.

Other than the safety and mag release operations I really don't notice any difference in the two. They feel the same in my hand and the accuracy is comparable.

I've only held the Sig and M&P at the gunshop. Both feel good in my hand. I would like to try both but probably won't unless someone I know happens to buy one and let's me shoot it.

 

[danez71]

I cant really give you a good answer because I have only shot MiniMags, Stingers, and Blazer bulk thru it. Before I bought the Bersa, I read what I could find about it, and most recommendations were for MiniMags. I only have 1,000 or so rounds downrange with it, mostly Blazers, and it does just fine with those. I can get the 525 Bulk packs for $16, so thats what I stick with. I really haven't done alot of ammo testing with it. It is very reliable with the Blazers, and I dont remember any malfunctions with the Bersa.

One thing I truly like about the Bersa(Walther PPK) is the style, and the feeling in the hand. This pistol style is a true work of art, and whoever did the the actual, original design, was a genius. The pistol points naturally and seems to easily hit whatever its pointed at(my Bersa Thunder 380 is the same). I also have a Ruger SR22P, and although I am a Ruger fanboy, the SR22P just lacks any real "style" that the Bersa has. They shoot the same, operate the same, and are equals as far as accuracy, and mode of operation. The Bersa always draws positive comments from the shooters at the range, but the Ruger is just another black 22 pistol.

I agree pretty much with all of this too.

I have the SR22p and the Firestorm (Bersa) .22 as well.

My Bersa has never failed with CCI minimags and Blazers but I'll add that it hasnt liked the really cheap stuff.

However, aarondhgraham has one and it seems to like everything.

My SR22 doesnt seem to be ammo picky at all as its shot the same ammo that my Firestorm/Bersa choked on.

 

[weblance]

Everybodys SR22P runs fine with any bulk ammo, except mine. I dont understand it, but mine doesnt like Federal or Winchester bulk. Its shoots and ejects fine, but then doesnt pick up the next round. I have 5 magazines, and it does that with all 5. The recoil spring is correctly captive on the guide rod. I have maybe 4,000 rounds downrange now, so its broken in. Its also not particularly accurate. It will put all shots on an 8" paper plate at 25 yards, but thats as good as it can do. I suppose I could send it back to Ruger, they could probably help the accuracy. I sent my stainless Single Six back because it would bind up with the LR cylinder, and also made the comment that it wasnt very accurate(same thing, paper plate accurate at 25 yards). It came back with the same barrel, and now will group 2-3" at 25 yards. I dont know if they fire-lapped it or what(*magic*)but its much better. I would like my SR22P alot better if it was accurate.

 

[Kiln]

I was of thinking of getting the Walther myself. I know two guys who each have one. They both talked me out of it. They are both very unhappy with theirs. Too bad, because I sure like they the grip fits my hand.

Yeah the looks and ergonomics are great on the P22. That is where the good part ends from my experience.

 

[Jaymo]

weblance, they could have recrowned the muzzle, recut the forcing cone, or reamed the chamber mouths to match each other and the barrel.

 

[littlebluevette]

Don't know about the others but I have a M&P 22. It is a great plunker, cheap and fun to shoot plus accurate to boot.

 

[helitack32f1]

Everybodys SR22P runs fine with any bulk ammo, except mine. I dont understand it, but mine doesnt like Federal or Winchester bulk. Its shoots and ejects fine, but then doesnt pick up the next round. I have 5 magazines, and it does that with all 5. The recoil spring is correctly captive on the guide rod. I have maybe 4,000 rounds downrange now, so its broken in. Its also not particularly accurate. It will put all shots on an 8" paper plate at 25 yards, but thats as good as it can do. I suppose I could send it back to Ruger, they could probably help the accuracy. I sent my stainless Single Six back because it would bind up with the LR cylinder, and also made the comment that it wasnt very accurate(same thing, paper plate accurate at 25 yards). It came back with the same barrel, and now will group 2-3" at 25 yards. I dont know if they fire-lapped it or what(*magic*)but its much better. I would like my SR22P alot better if it was accurate.

Sorry to hear of your issues with the SR22p. I say mine has been nearly flawless but i forget to take into account, that is compared to the worthless Walther I had.

I was getting occasional failures to feed with mine and finally came to the conclusion it had something to do with me gripping the gun tightly. With the accessory floor plates on the magazines, squeezing the grip hard seems to put just enough pressure down and back on the mag to cause a failure to feed. I tested this by doing it on purpose and it failed to feed a couple of times but then I couldn't replicate it again so can't say for sure that is what is going on.

As for accuracy, mine has pin point accuracy as long as I am plinking at small targets, like cans, shotgun shells etc, but when fired at paper, it was greatly similar to what you have stated.

Here are three 50 round groups from 25 yards, resting hands on a rest. I suspect accuracy is way better when not resting. Or when a more competent shooter is involved.

 

[Avenger29]

I'd get the SR-22 or MP-22.

 

[snooperman]

Walther should be ashamed for putting their good name on the P22... Go with the Ruger and you will not be disappointed.