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M1 Carbine: Should I get it?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by BluedRevolver, May 5, 2012.

  1. BluedRevolver

    BluedRevolver Well-Known Member

    My uncle's wanting to sell me his 1944 Winchester M1 Carbine. It's in pretty good condition, with a relatively low round count, with normal wear. He wants $720 cause I'm family

    I've heard mixed things about .30 Carbine. Some say it's more or less as powerful as a .357 Magnum. Some say the ball ammo sucks (which I'd imagine it does), and if you use good HP's it's an exceptional defensive carbine round. Then a few say it sucks all around.

    Any fresh insights on .30 Carbine? Would it make a good little defensive weapon?
  2. Peter M. Eick

    Peter M. Eick Well-Known Member

    Get it. Fun gun to shoot. Sort of like a glorified 22 lr.

    I reload for mine (Inland 44 also if I remember right). It will take soft points or FMJ's. I use mine as a defense round around the house.

    It is small, compact, reliable, easy to shoot, not as loud as a 223 and it is easy to handle. 15 rounds in the mag, 30 more in the butt carrier.

    Think about it. It has been protecting folks since 44 and doing a reasonable job of it.
  3. Tommygunn

    Tommygunn Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a good deal to me if it's in as good shape as claimed.
    Don't knock the round. The carbine was developed to replace the .45ACP pistol and the Thompson. In reality it did neither. Many Japanese & German soldiers went down to it's cartridge. It's true it is not as poweful as the Garand round. It was not intended to be the main battle rifle. When used under 200 yards it proved relatively accurate and powerful enough to penetrate German helmets and down them, which was beyond the ability of the .45.
    It did suffer in theaters where long range shooting was the norm --- where the Garand was really required to accuratly hit and take out the enemy. But it was never intended to be used at those ranges.
    I suggest if you want to use soft nose or hollowpoint you buy some and test fire them because some carbines don't like soft nose rounds. These can be helped by polishing the ramp in some cases. The carbine was intended for use with ball ammo and even that is nothing to sneeze at.
    The carbine saw service up to early years in Vietnam. Soldiers having experience with both the M-1 Carbine and the M-16 thought that the carbine was as effective as the M-16 at close ranges and often prefered the carbine. The early M-16s had "teething problems" that took awhile to iron out and were jammomatics, while the carbine just plain worked.
    As for a defense weapon it would be good for a home defense weapon. Try to get some good hollowpoints and run them for function assurance as I said. The #1 downside is the price of this kind of ammo. I just paid $33.00 for a box of 50 rounds and for HP they're a little more.
  4. BluedRevolver

    BluedRevolver Well-Known Member

    You're convincing me! That's exactly what I was gonna use it for: a handy little defensive carbine for around the house, maybe in the truck and out camping. A good "go to" weapon.

    And I'd be keeping it fed with 15 rd mags stuffed with 110 grain Winchester JHP's.
  5. My M1 carbines are more accurate than my AK variants. As noted, with softpoint ammo, the carbine becomes pretty lethal. Also, the handling qualities of the little carbine make one fast rifle, possibly giving it an edge in a CQB engagement. I do not think you would be disappointed, unless you try to make it do something more than it was designed for.
  6. allaroundhunter

    allaroundhunter Well-Known Member

    For the type of defense that you are wanting, the M1 carbine shines. You will regret it instantly if you let this one go...
  7. BluedRevolver

    BluedRevolver Well-Known Member

    Called my uncle. I'll be picking it up tomorrow :D
  8. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    I think it's the perfect HD carbine.

    I love mine. They won't get cheaper.
  9. allaroundhunter

    allaroundhunter Well-Known Member

    Great choice!! Pics when you get it?
  10. BluedRevolver

    BluedRevolver Well-Known Member

  11. greyling22

    greyling22 Well-Known Member

    ammo's pricey and geting higher. that's about the only thing I can say bad about an m1 carbine.
  12. ScottieG59

    ScottieG59 Well-Known Member

    I have an old M1 carbine. It has been very reliable for many years. A 110 grain bullet with a 1,950 fps muzzle velocity will definitely do some damage. It is easy to handle and reloading ammo is easy.

    I would worry about over penetration with most of the available ammo.

    I do not carry mine around since I carry concealed.
  13. BSA1

    BSA1 Well-Known Member

    A great gun for gun nuts but otherwise not that practical of choice.

    Cheap surplus ammunition is long gone.

    Ammo resupply may be a big issue. It is not carried by all sporting goods stores and it pricey.

    The 30 Carbine is a poor stopper. This was proven time and time again in WWII and Korea.

    To me the price is high but hey it is family right?

    You can get a Saiga carbine for half the price...

    And the price keeps going up...

    There are fewer and fewer of them...

    And you are a gun nut right? :D:D:D
  14. shuvelrider

    shuvelrider Well-Known Member

    The Winnie name is always an instant hit for re-sale if you decide to in the future, I would think for family he would have done ya a better price. Either way , they are fun and easy to reload for if you go that route.
    Got my Inland around 5 years ago , great shooting gun. Shoot my steel target out at the 200 yard line, so they can reach out there. They were designed for out to 300 yards by Army requirements at the time.
  15. Tommygunn

    Tommygunn Well-Known Member

    No, what was proven was that it is a short range weapon as opposed to the Garand, which is a long range weapon. IOWs when used as designed it works fine.
  16. allaroundhunter

    allaroundhunter Well-Known Member

    It was proven that it did not stop as well as the Garand. It was also proven using FMJ rounds, which is not a restriction placed on the OP.
  17. greyling22

    greyling22 Well-Known Member

    funny thing is, I hear all kinds of whining about the poor stopping power of the 30 carbine 110grn bullet @ 1950fps, but nobody seems bothered at all by virtually identical performance out of the "new hotness" 300 blackout.

    it's also fairly similar to the 357 mag with a lightweight bullet. ball ammo just goes through and through, pretty good on rabbits and squirrels. a soft point however, well it's killed plenty of deer in our family.
  18. snakeman

    snakeman Well-Known Member

    heck yeah
  19. Marlin 45 carbine

    Marlin 45 carbine Well-Known Member

    doubt you'll regret buying it. it's one of the few firearms I've ever regretted selling, since my wife passed I didn't need it and sold locally (not for that high a price though as this was around 15yr back). wish I had thought to get it to one of my nephew's wife.
  20. CZguy

    CZguy Well-Known Member

    M1 carbine threads need photos.........here's a 1943 Underwood.


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