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Anyone know the history of this company? Wikipedia has nothing on them. The MASADA looks like it's going to be one of the best black rifles on the American (or even world) market. Looking at their catalog it looks like the MASADA is going to be their first gun.

http://www.magpul.com/catalog/

Which means I will probably wait for a SCAR than risk something from the new kid on the block. But the MASADA is still a very intriguing rifle.

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Magpul has earned a name for making some of the best accessories for the AR-15 platform. Their collapsible stocks are extremely well made, as are their grips, and magazine followers. The Masada is their first design and was all the buzz at the Shot Show. It looks like an interesting design, but it is also their first design, so we will see if they can pull it off. There are numerous threads covering the Masada as well as their PDR as well.
 
I have a few Magpul PMAGs and can vouch for the company. The quality is top-notch and I'd stack them up against those HK mags everyone trips over any day of the week (and for a lot less money I might add).

Can't go wrong with Magpul. :)
 
The quality is top-notch and I'd stack them up against those HK mags everyone trips over any day of the week (and for a lot less money I might add).
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Magpul is a repuatable company with excellent products. However, even they won't make the claim you just did. By their own postings on AR15.com, the PMAG was designed to be a mag that could be rapidly produced with repeatable tolerances, and is not intended for the sooter who uses his weapon on a daily basis. If kept loaded, it requires the use of the cover to keep the lips from deforming.

While they have much expertise in the molding of polymers, they have no demonstrable expertise in producing firearms. I'd wait for the smoke to clear.

As for me, I'm not overly thrilled. Sure, it looks cool but it's technically just a piston driven AR with parts that don't fully interchange.
 
Magpul has a promising reputation in product design and I am eagerly looking forward to the Masada since I have liked every other Magpul product I purchased. Despite that, it is still too early to say whether the rifle will be any good. As far as I know, there is only one actual Masada rifle and they are still tweaking it. That is a long way from a quality production rifle ready to sell - and Magpul is already missing anticipated delivery dates for much less complicated products at this point.
 
I'm excited about the rifle. If it lives up to its promise, it is going to be good. That is a big "if", however.

I'll be waiting for the kinks to be worked out before I buy one, but if the kinks do work out, I'll have cash in hand.

Mike
 
I wouldn't worry about IF the Masada will be a quality weapon...I'd be more concerned about IF the Masada will be offered to civillians.

Magpul always has their plates full with multiple projects and sometimes that requires tweaking to resolve the issues. I have been a loyal fan of Magpul products, so I am confident that the Masada will be a hit.

The PMAGS are the cat's meow in terms of durability. I like how simple it is to disassemble for cleaning. Buy some and you will have a big smile on your face.
 
aren't the pmags brand new? how do we know how durable they are?
 
aren't the pmags brand new? how do we know how durable they are?
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I agree... they have these dust covers or whatever they call them that they claim are needed to keep the feed lips from bending when loaded...

Never had that issue with my current USGI mags... so obviously that throws up a red flag to me. Nevertheless, I still got a couple for testing them out. They may be a decent alternative to USGI mags, but I will not be replacing my USGI mags with PMAGs...

As for the Masada, it "looks" promising on paper. But reality may tell another story. I am cautiously optimistic about this rifle, but I am going to let some of you others be the guinea pigs on the Masada...
 
I'd be more concerned about IF the Masada will be offered to civillians.
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The founder of Magpul has already stated it will be available to civilians. They were calling it "the people's rifle" around Magpul IIRC.
 
Not that video again...

Yes, the PMAG is stronger in certain respects than a conventional USGI magazine. However, at this point in the game, even Magpul themselves will tell you to keep the dust cover in place to prevent the mag lips from deforming when kept loaded.

I guess you have to ask yourself, do your mags spend more time loaded or under the wheel of a truck? Huh? What's that? I thought so.

In any event, I fail to see how Magpul's prowess as a molder of plastic directly translates to the design, manufacture, servicing and sales of firearms. I wish them luck, as the certainly deserve it, but I am certain they will find a bumpy road ahead.
 
A refresher on Magpul Pmag Problems:

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=264210

So, no, won't be buying the Masada until I see at least 1/2 dozen of you guys
work the bugs out of it first. Better yet, I'd be more than happy to T&E one
of the rifles for one of the magpul lurkers here on THR. Trust me, I won't try
to make it fail, I'll just find the pesky bugs faster than their employees in the
parking lot seem to ;)
 
From what I read on AR15.com Magpul has stated that the covers on the PMAGs are not required. They are recommended for long-term storage. I believe I also read that they have stored loaded PMAGs for over two months now without any impact on the feed lips (this is without the covers installed).

Also, have you seen the thread on AR15.com where the Marine (or Army, can't remember) drives an armored Suburban over the loaded mag? Breaks the spine from the 7 ton load but still shoots just fine in his rifle. I don't know about you, but I sure as heck wouldn't try that with a USGI mag, and CERTAINLY not with a $35+ HK mag.

Just pointing out they ain't bad. :)
 
Just because the Pmag is shown being run over, doesn't mean they will last forever. Magpul admits they are limited use items. Everybody wants them right now, because they are the new trendy item to have. They have already went through a design change, and they need another one to fix the out of spec magwell issue. Granted that is not there fault, but these should have been tested better/more thoroughly.

Now, once the Masada gets all the bugs worked out, then I might be interested. I'm not going to pay to be there beta tester though.
 
I'll make sure to load/unload my Pmags in 2 month intervals:rolleyes: Call me in a year, and let me know how they are holding up.
 
you'd be surprised what sort of things are structured so that they can support the weight of a vehicle... but will fail under different and far more mundane circumstances.

for instance... what happens when you fill the mag with cartridges, then slap the back of it on a bench or something... a couple hundred times?
 
Also, have you seen the thread on AR15.com where the Marine (or Army, can't remember) drives an armored Suburban over the loaded mag?
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The shooter in that video is a Department of State guy and former Canadian infantry.
 
Magpul is already missing anticipated delivery dates for much less complicated products at this point.
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*cough* UBR *cough*

If Magpul wants the Masada to be "the people's rifle", here's hoping they can get it out before January 2009, otherwise it may only be "the People's rifle". :D
 
I believe I also read that they have stored loaded PMAGs for over two months now without any impact on the feed lips (this is without the covers installed).
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Wow, a whole two months!
Sorry, that just sounds funny to me. Reminds me of a line out of the movie Armageddon.

back to your regular scheduled thread.
 
Look, this is taking a turn for the worse.

I like my PMAGs. Others like their PMAGs. They are cheap, they are durable. My personal opinion is that they are better than the HK mags costing over twice as much (you know, the price-performance ratio?). I'm not an operator who runs hundreds of rounds through my mags daily so I can't attest to their "battle" readiness. I really don't care about the covers, they are easily removed for action and frankly are nice as a way to keep crap out of your loaded mag.

The guy asked for opinions on Magpul as a company and I answered with a positive about their poly mags. Seems that got some dander up. :\

Bartholomew, thanks for the heads up on the correct country/military.
 
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