MAK-90 to AK-47 style 922r Compliance

[nalioth]

This thread was started almost 2 years ago - I'd hope the OP has his answer by now.

 

[Cobra76two]

Hey brother wassup! Well yeah I'm over here playing thread necromancer alright....sorry. If you read my whole post you will see that even as old as this issue is...the question still remains without a clear definitive answer, other than the usual (better add an extra part anyway to be on the safe side...bla bla...".

So what's your opinion on it?
Is it 5 or 6?

What's the deal with the EZ Check list being wrong?

Pardon me for digging up an old thread, I only saw it because I did a google search for what I was looking for...ACCURATE info.

 

[WardenWolf]

A standard AK with a non-threaded muzzle and fully foreign furniture has 15 foreign parts. I am basing this count off the Saiga rifle, which I already know to have 14, and adding 1 for the pistol grip. So we have a base of 15 to start out with.

Your least expensive route to get yourself down to 10 parts and legal while still allowing you a maximum of customizability is:

1. Replace the trigger group (3 parts)

2. Use a US-made pistol grip (1 part)

3. Buy replacement magazine floorplates (1 part)

This allows you to use any furniture you like. You can use Romanian wood or whatever you want. I personally recommend an Arsenal fire control group, not Tapco. A lot of people like the Tapco G2, but after lots of experience with unintentional bumpfiring in my Saiga rifle, I've decided it's way too touchy and I'd rather have the more controllable Arsenal.

 

[Cobra76two]

Thank you for your reply WardenWolf. This is exactly what my question is about. According to what you are saying, all I've ever read is correct. My question is, if you go to this site I posted the link to, and was also posted, and un-check the 5 boxes next to the parts you listed, this so called automatic conversion compliance checklist still shows the rifle as having 11 parts and being illegal. Many people are using this thing and thinking they need to replace 6 parts, not 5 like we've always said.
http://thegunwiki.com/Gunwiki/BuildAkVerifyCompliance

 

[nalioth]

Your least expensive route to get yourself down to 10 parts and legal while still allowing you a maximum of customizability is:

1. Replace the trigger group (3 parts)

2. Use a US-made pistol grip (1 part)

3. Buy replacement magazine floorplates (1 part)

It's only inexpensive until you borrow a buddy's magazine at the range and break a federal law by inserting it (yes the revenuers consider inserting a mag to be "assembly").

Your list would better serve by substituting the mag part for a gas piston.

 

[Cobra76two]

For those who insist on using ALL imported furniture (my reason was I hate the way a plastic PG looks and feels on a gun with nice Russian, Bulgy, Polish, or Romy wood stock and HGs) then even replacing the piston isn't quite enough. It's also much easier to just glance at the bottom of a mag and read "Made in USA" on there, which is why I went that route with my Mak-90.
So my question still stands....why is that click and play check list still being used if it's giving people false information? Or is it actually right and many of us have non compliant guns?
Hello?

 

[Walkalong]

Your list would better serve by substituting the mag part for a gas piston.

That is what I did. No worries then. Use any mag you want.

 

[nalioth]

My rifle has 5 US parts added (not including the brake which cancels itself out).
That is right in line with all I've read about compliance with AK rifles.
BUT...if you try to use that new checklist,
http://thegunwiki.com/Gunwiki/BuildAkVerifyCompliance
...which wasn't around back then...and you uncheck the 5 parts I referred to (not including the brake), it still says you need one more part to bring it down to the magic number 10.
And... if you uncheck muzzle device it suddenly brings you down to 10 (something that from my understanding was an extra thing)

I'm not seeing it, Cobra.

I uncheck the FCG, piston and floor plate and muzzle device (which cancels itself out), and it comes up with 10 foreign parts.

Kalashnikovs w/o a threaded muzzle = 15 countable parts.
Kalashnikovs with a muzzle device = 16 countable parts.

I'm not seeing any reason for confusion

 

[Cobra76two]

Oh...I didn't uncheck that...
It didn't add up right when I looked at my particular Mak conversion. I;ll have to go back and look at it again.

On a different note, is it possible to resubscribe to a thread once you have unsubscribed? I did that by mistake.

Nevermind on the subscription question, sorry, still figuring out how this forum software works....