Making jacketed bullets with fired cartridge cases?

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Does anybody here make their own jacketed bullets using cartridge cases? Seems to be fairly common on the Cast Boolits forum.

I'm intrigued by this concept, especially using .22lr brass to make .223 bullets.

Just wondered if anyone here does it. Trying to get an idea of cost, results, etc.
 
I used to collect 22 lr brass and sell, or trade them for components with a local LGS / commercial reloader. But 22 lr brass isn't as easy to find these days.

I also considered getting into this at one time, but the start up cost seemed a bit steep. Maybe some day.

GS
 
Yeah I looked at it too but the startup cost stopped me as well. I could just have too many boxes of xtreme bullets shipped for that price.
 
Yes, I share a set of Corbin dies with 2 shooting buddies. It is quite a labor intensive process and our final product (57 gr. open point bullets) are serviceable but not match quality. I do use them for groundhog hunting and service rifle practice and they are fine in that regard.

Would I recommend it? Probably not. While the materials are very inexpensive, the time involved in the process makes me think a person would be better off just buying bullets.

To make a bullet, you must 1) swage the .22 case into the cup, 2) clean and anneal the cups, 3) cast or cut from lead wire for the cores, 4)swage the cores into the cups, 5) form the points, then 6) final tumble clean. If the cups are not properly annealed, the point will crack during the forming process and essentially negate your work in steps 1 - 4. Depending on the annealing process, I've had batches of bullets with a 25 - 35% reject rate. Very frustrating.

I think the technology dates back to WWII when bullets were impossible to find and peoples time was a lot cheaper than todays.

Laphroaig
 
Making varmint bullets from .22 cases was made popular by Vernon Speer, who started in his garage making bullets for .222 Remington rifles. The rest is history as they say......

Yes, it's very labor intensive, and a slow process. When I anneal cases for jackets with the cores already sitting in them, I leave them in the kiln overnight to cool, since I've brought them up to 1,125 degrees F. That's the same temperature Starline uses to anneal their brass, which is why I chose it. This has the side advantage of bonding the core to the jacket without the use of flux, which is a form of acid and is hard on swaging dies.

The advantage to swaging from common byproducts of shooting is being the ultimate recycler, and when .44 caliber bullets were almost non-existent a couple of years ago, I had bins full of my swaged bullets to shoot in both my revolvers and leveraction rifles.

Hope this helps.

Fred
 
Rock Chuck Bullet Swage was Fred Huntington's product that used 22 rim fire cases swaged full of lead cores. They were popular during and after WWII with reloaders shooting varmints with sporterized Mauser actions shooting various 22 centerfires. Users finally convinced Fred to make presses and other tools of the trade. That happened long before the .222 Rem cartridge was introduced in 1950. Huntington's Model A press came out around 1947.

RCBS is now what happens when a good idea well done gets better over time.
http://www.cwea.org/nsv/bsb/RCBS.pdf

ReloaderFred, you're not the first reloading Fred.
 
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There used to be a website for reloading, trading, swapping supplies. A couple of the guys were big on using cases for bullets like Fred. Some had the dies made and sold them so guys could make their own bullets.

Can't remember the name of it, maybe Fred knows? Been a few years since I last saw the board so I don't know if it's still around.
 
Previous posts on this thread reflect considerable confusion about swaging bullets from cartridge cases, and the equipment used. Since the Original Poster specifically asked about making .22 bullets from empty Rimfire cases let's start there: The date is early 1940's, and WWII. War demands halted production of commercial type bullets, which were soon in short supply and hard to obtain. However, fired Rimfire cases were relatively plentiful due to consumption of Rimfire ammo in marksmanship training centers such ROTC programs. Thus, Fred Huntington and other like minded shooters made bullet swaging dies to convert these fired cases to finished bullets for themselves and other shooters. Existing reloading presses at the time were generally not strong or rigid enough for the stresses of bullet swaging so Huntington designed and built a more robust press for the swaging dies he wanted to make and sell, and the Rock Chuck Bullet Swage company was born. Very few of these were built, and extant survivors are mainly in vintage collections. At the close of WWII commercial production of bullets for reloaders resumed, which of course resulted in a drop in demand for bullets made from Rimfire cases and swages to make them. However, Huntington and other reloaders forsaw a growing market for reloading presses and loading dies, at which time, about 1947, Huntington revised the design of his press. It is what I refer to as the RCBS 2nd model, which is easily identified by the rigid side braces. A photo of the 2nd model is attached with the lower unit of an original Huntington bullet swaging die in place. Also attached is photo of original .22 cal RCBS swaging dies, such as would have been used making bullets from Rimfire cases. The third attached photo shows the swaging dies in place in an early "A" style press. Forth photo is an early "A" which were introduced in mid 1950's.
 

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Found a link to the site, still up and running but looks like barely.

www.ammobrasstrader.gunloads.com

Not sure what info is still on the site as it has changed since I last looked it up. And it had gone through an upgrade, server change.... I'm sure looking around or asking will help locate info on swagging cases into bullets.
 
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