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Man charged after shooting dog that bit him

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dog comes on my land, dog bites me, I shoot dog, I go to jail :scrutiny:

Oh wait this is in mass, so yeah now it makes sense heh
 
Absolutely correct

"There's not enough actual information in the purported "article" to form an intelligent opinion."

Especially when what little fact is present is skewed by the utter absence of OTHER significant facts. :scrutiny:
 
I think I drove by....

I think I drove by there on my way to work this morning as I saw TV news trucks on a side street (nothing happens in Foxborough). The Foxborough CoP is a pretty decent guy and well thought of by local shooters. I don't know him personally but went through him for my pistol permit.

I did see that the shooter got a pretty good laywer, he's the guy I'd get if I could afford him.


Respectfully,

jdkelly
 
But my puppy would never do that!!

Yah sure, one of those kind of dogs was a terror. It killed other small dogs, chased and bit kids, tried to kill my daughter’s baby goat, if she really cared about it she would have kept it in her yard and not allowed it to run loose. What I am saying here is like has already been pointed out there is not enough facts here. Also as to the life span of that dog, as I remember correctly large dogs have shorter life spans and at 11 for that dog it was old, very old, not exactly a pup.
 
I live in Massachusetts, I own guns, I own dogs. My neighbor owns guns and dogs. His dog wanders into my yard all the time, especially when our families are sitting around the pool eating burgers and drinking beer.

Odd that no one has thought to shoot the dogs. Could be that there is more to this story...
 
The eleven-year-old Siberian husky named Kato was shot in the head with a 22-caliber rifle owned by Frederick Grossmith. Grossmith told police the dog wandered onto his farm, bit him and got into a fight with one of his own dogs.

Grossmith was treated for minor bite wounds, but police said they found no evidence of a fight with other dogs.
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A)There was evidence of the dog biting a man, but not of a fight with other dogs. It follows that he was unjustified in his cruelty toward the attacking dog?:confused:

B)It is generally considered good self-defense protocol that one should try to disengage as soon as it is safe to do so. I would surmise from the information available that Mr. Grossmith was able to escape the dog and retrieve the .22 rifle from a protected area. He went back and shot the dog. Not a bad idea to me, but I live in Texas - if a dog needs killin it needs killin. Apparently in Marxachusetts, it was a bad idea. He should have alerted the canine counseling service.
 
...not a life and death struggle.

Apparently in Marxachusetts, it was a bad idea. He should have alerted the canine counseling service.
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Personally that's what I think I'd do. I've been bitten by several dogs in my life and I although I didn't enjoyed it I also never felt the need to go get a gun and shoot them. But I’m not much of a hot head when it comes to things like that.

We are talking about a single bite here (how bad I don’t know) and not a life and death struggle. Yeah I think calling the doggie police and starting a legal process might have been the smarter thing to do. I’d bet the shooter thinks so too. After all at 11 years old if the dog is a biter he’ll have a record.


Respectfully,

jdkelly
 
There's not enough actual information in the purported "article" to form an intelligent opinion.
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Exactly. There seems to be a subtext of a feud with the neighbors and possibly a lack of credibility in his story. But who knows.
 
Like people, dogs and every other animal have the ability to snap- wittnessed it happen. If he actually has wounds, hopefully the jury will be understanding.
 
We live in a very rural area on 15 acres, and we have three small children. I consider any dog that ventures onto our property a threat.

If it's a lone dog I'll just keep an eye on it. If it's more than one, I grab my Ruger M77 Mark II (.308).

Over the past 5 years I have taken shots at six dogs. Of these, I have hit three. But I'm a better shot now, so I expect my batting average will improve.
 
Well this is nothing. One of my family members had one of their yard chickens peck his little girl and make her cry. All those chickens were shot dead. About 10. Don't mess with Daddy's litttle girl and make her cry. Dog bites someone in their yard around here nothing would be done if it was shot. Legally you would be within the law and your right to do so.
 
I'm suprised(no I'm not) that he was charged with animal cruelity. It's not like he tourtured it, or stabed it in the ribs, or burned the dog. He put it down as humanily as possible. Maybe destruction of property, but not cruelity.

I hope justice is served.
 
sherm

I live in Massachusetts, I own guns, I own dogs. My neighbor owns guns and dogs. His dog wanders into my yard all the time, especially when our families are sitting around the pool eating burgers and drinking beer. no one has thought to shoot the dogs. Could be that there is more to this story
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Yup, this guy wouldn't share his beer and and the dog bit him...makes sense to me!:neener: :D :evil:
 
Gee, around here a dog bite is worth at least $20,000 from the dog owner's homeowner's policy, or so I've been told (had a Rottie and had to ask my agent... they gulped at the word Rottweiler).

More to the story than meets the eye, perhaps.

I've pulled my Lab away from a pit bull who decided to take him on, got bit (leg) in the process. It smarted, bled, cleaned it, put a butterfly or three over the slashed opening... nice scar, but was too busy at the time to think about going for the guns.

He musta had his .22 ready and waiting, or came back after the fact. (Speculation, that's all folks)
 
If the guy got bitten, then he should be within his rights to defend himself. I just wonder what he did to the dog to get it to bite. I have owned a husky before, and they are perhaps the least aggressive dogs on the planet. They have no guard-dog instinct and are very social. Heck, the one I had would always run away from an encounter. Huskies are not known for getting into spats with other dogs. They were bred to work as a team with other dogs. My miniature dachshund was much more aggressive. If it was mixed with wolf along the way, that might be a different story.

I believe that any animal that unjustly attacks a human should be put down, and that includes other humans.
 
"One of my family members had one of their yard chickens peck his little girl and make her cry. All those chickens were shot dead. About 10. Don't mess with Daddy's litttle girl and make her cry. "


What a scary, uber violent and irrational person. Not the kind of person I want to see carry, glad the kid wasn't slapped by another child!
CT
 
There is more to this story than was reported... And I am sure there is more than what I can add too. My parents live right around the corner from where this happened.

Grossmith owns some animals (not sure exactly what they are, they look like really hairy cows)... Supposedly the dog attacked the animals and he was trying to protect them...

If I had to say based on what I know from the paper and from my parents, I'd say he was justified... But that's just my 2 cents.
 
I don't know specifically about huskies, but my aunt used to own a samoyed. That was a VERY aggressive dog. It bit my cousin in the face once. She ended up giving it to her brother who lived somewhere around 65th and Blackstone in Chicago. Not as good as a gun, but the best he could do legally in Apartheid Chicago.

I've got a friend who's a little Vietnamese guy. His neighbor had a dog which he didn't bother to control. One day it ran into my friend's yard and bit one of his toddler sons. My buddy grabbed his kid, then came back out with his SKS, bayonet fixed. The neighbor asked what he was doing with the gun, so he told him that if the dog came back, he'd shoot it. The neighbor objected to this, possibly threatening my friend, so he said, "Ok chief, I shoot you too!" The cops got called, and their advice was for the guy to control his dog so that THEY didn't shoot it.
 
How refreshing!

"The cops got called, and their advice was for the guy to control his dog so that THEY didn't shoot it."

A force intelligent enough to perceive - and act on - the REAL problem, instead of demonizing the gun owner.

And buy the owner a box of hollow points........
 
That would never happen in MA. If you threatened to shoot someone and had a gun in your hands they would slap the cuffs on you in a heartbeat. The guy who's kid got bit would have been thrown in jail and the dog would have continued to roam free to bite his kids again.

Unfortunately this is a perfect example of justice in MA. You get attacked, defend yourself and get punished for it.
 
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