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Marlin 444

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Beak50, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. Beak50

    Beak50 Well-Known Member

    Right after I got married I wanted to get my own gun for Deer season 22 or 23 yrs.ago,and brought a Marlin 444.My fin law was:banghead: saying It was a pice of junk but he scoped it for me and the first time I shot it it blew my cap off my head.Anyway I ended up selling it because he said it was to much for deer do any of you agree or disagree with his theory?
  2. Chawbaccer

    Chawbaccer Well-Known Member

    Never buy to please somebody else, only yourself.
  3. dogmush

    dogmush Well-Known Member

    How big are your deer?

    I have a .444 that I bought as a bear gun, but it would wok on deer. It's probably a bit of overkill. It's certainly not a piece of junk.

    If you liked it, and sold it because someone else didn't like it, I think you made a mistake.
  4. Hunterdad

    Hunterdad Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't consider it overkill. It is certainly more than enough for deer.
  5. Geno

    Geno Well-Known Member

    The .444 Marlin is one of my favorite cartridges (for that matter, so is Marlin's 444 rifle). I used an Encore pistol (I know...rifle post) to hunt my first russian boar close to 20 years ago. The found the recoil, even in that pistol, to be very tolerable with 265 grain projectiles.

  6. hogshead

    hogshead Well-Known Member

    I have a 444 Marlin and love it. Mainly a bear gun but feel very comfortable using for deer to. To much gun beats to little gun everytime. I disagree with his theory.
  7. Salmoneye

    Salmoneye Well-Known Member

    You screwed up selling it...

    .444 can be loaded down to just over .44 Mag velocities for a good 'plinker', or excellent 'deer rifle'...
  8. natman

    natman Well-Known Member

    Marlin's of that era were NOT junk.

    The 444 is a bit more powerful than is strictly required for deer, but they certainly get the job done. It's not "too much for deer", but it may have been too much for you, i.e. the recoil was more than you were comfortable with. You're in a better position to judge that than we are.
  9. x_wrench

    x_wrench Well-Known Member

    no, it is not to much gun for a deer. i am not really sure you could have to much gun for deer, unless you start digging out cannons. a Howitzer WOULD DEFINITELY be to much gun! my definition of to much gun is one that does way to much damage to an animal, so as to ruin much of the meat. a 458 Lott would not be to much gun for a deer. it would be to much gun for ME, but not the deer. dead, is dead. when people say it is to much gun, to me that means it is to much gun for them. i can understand that. not everyone is cut out for big recoil. i shoot deer with either a 300 Win. Mag., or a 45/70. both have a pretty stout recoil, so to some, they would be to much gun. but, i only had one deer go anywhere after being shot. and it was hit after the bullet went thru an oak tree. even after that, it only went about 70 yards. i can handle the recoil fine, and shoot both of them year round.
  10. snakeman

    snakeman Well-Known Member

    Possibly the most fun deer hunting I have done in years was with a 45-70 and the shot came at 20 yards after much stalking in open country. It was a huge rush and a closer shot than the one i pulled of last year with my bow. So don't ever let someone ruin a gun purchase for you just because they don't find appealing themselves. Next up, rossi 357 lever action with a tang sight. That should be fun!
  11. batmann

    batmann Well-Known Member

    Since it is gone, moot argument. The .444 Marlin is a great round only limited by bullet selection from the major ammo makers.
  12. 303tom

    303tom member

    I would not call it over kill, I sometimes use a .45-70 & as far as destructive, not any more than a 220gr. from my 06...........
  13. jeepnik

    jeepnik Well-Known Member

    I, also, use a 45-70 on deer, as well as hogs, and looking forward to black bear. Go over to http://www.levergunscommunity.com/index.php there are lots of .444 owners there. They'll be glad to explain exactly what the .444 is good for.
  14. CraigC

    CraigC Well-Known Member

    Definitely not junk and not overkill for deer. If you use the right bullet.
  15. xXxplosive

    xXxplosive Well-Known Member

    Bought the rifle back in the 70's..........good, solid lever gun.....accounted for many Black Bear with no difficulty. The last bear I shot with it was on the ground in front of me at approx. 12 yards.... Running shot broad side....just missed the lead for a solid lung shot as he was goin' full tilt. The Rem. 240 gr soft point blew his liver clean out the other side of him.....we picked up pieces of it off the ground. Found the bear a short distance further and stuffed part of a tree limb in him to plug the exit hole while we carried him a Boar....Wt. 342 lbs.
    IMO.......solid round for 100 yds and under....good woods gun.
  16. CraigC

    CraigC Well-Known Member

    The .44Mag is good to 125yds or more. The .444 will add a bit to this.
  17. PapaG

    PapaG Well-Known Member

    I inherited one from my much missed brother. Absolutely first model, straight grip, monte carlo, half magazine, microgroove, and marked 336-444. It has a few dings and scratches but I like it and am ordering a couple hundred new brass and bullets from 240 to 300 grain and WILL develop a load for hogs, deer and black bear. (of course I have to travel to use it, our Republik doesn't allow rifles on deer).
  18. Eb1

    Eb1 Well-Known Member

    I heard that VV N120 will make the 444 shine.
  19. rori

    rori member

    Only thing wrong with a 444 is that it isn't a 45/70!!!!!I don't know how you can overkill a deer or anything else for that matter. Lots of gunstore bwanas around that will pontificate on all the guns and animals in the world but get choked up actually taking a mouse out of a trap. Go with what you like and ignore the "experts". FRJ
  20. jmr40

    jmr40 Well-Known Member

    My philosophy is to buy and use the guns you enjoy hunting with. A 444 will work, but I wouldn't use one, but if someone else does that is fine with me. There are much better guns that will do the same job, with less recoil, more accuracy and range. I owned a 45-70 from 1976 up until about a month ago when I sold mine so I do have a bit of experience with Marlin big bores. I have no regrets. Would've sold it years ago, but waited until I could make a nice profit on it.

    I don't know what you replaced the 444 with, but you are probably better off today than 22 years ago. They are not junk. They are high quality guns, but not the most efficeint guns to hunt with. If someone likes and enjoys using them, and accepts their range limitations they are good guns. But not for everyone. I'd call them a specialized enthusiasts gun. Certainly not the best choice for a beginner to use for all around hunting. I think that is the point your FIL was trying to make.

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