Marlin Model 60 vs Ruger 10/22?

[m500'92]

show me a broken ruger.I'v seen broken marlin,savage,remchesterburg,cz,cricket,S&W,colt Ect... broken. never in my life have I owned, used, heard of, or seen a broken ruger.

Okay well I've seen at least 5 or 10 out of 15 Rugers I used to have be broken right out of the box (only including the ones that actually had to go back to the factory). Ruger has the worst quality control I have ever seen. I will also never use the rotary magazine again, they are stupid pieces of plastic trash, personally I'd rather have a clip that sticks out, you get a slimmer gun overall as well. Now we have 3 out of those original 15 Rugers so all is good.

 

[dom1104]

wow. M500'92 that is 100% the opposite of my experiance.

I would rate the ruger rotary magazine up there with one of the best most reliable magazine designs ever.

My ruger is about 10 years old, all aluminum, maybe the newer rugers have major issues. I have 12 Ruger BX1 mags, and have never had issues, ever. every other mag has given me issues at one point or another tho.

Yikes.

 

[Kurt_D]

I'll add my experience:

1) yes my Mod 60 seemed more accurate than my friend's stock 10/22, but I'm all most 100% sure it was more shooter related than gun. I now have a 10/22 rifle (20" barrel, stock) that is at least equal to my former mod 60.

2) both my mod 60 and dad's were/are jam-o-matics. I don't care if it can put 10 rounds throught the same hole at 100 yards, if you can't shoot more than 1-2 rounds without a jam it's a POS. No matter how clean it is, after 5-10 rounds it's dirty enough to start jamming consisitantly. Don't give me "well this one was made back when, blah blah blah," mine was bought in `96 and my dad's is older than me. I've tried every type of ammo I can get my hands on, they jam with it all. My 10/22, stock, only had 1 type of ammo jam and that was Winchester bulk pack, yes I replaced the extractor and haven't found anything it won't eat. It can be picky with ammo in reguards to accuracy, but that's the name of the game in .22 LR.

3) Plastic parts? You want to bash a Ruger 10/22 for using plastic parts here recently in the FCG when Marlin has been doing it with the mod 60 for 30 years??? Yes my Dad's has plastic parts in the FCG, mine not only had that but the trigger guard was plastic as well.

4) It's funny how everyone says their mod 60 hardly ever jams, I haven't seen one yet make it through 1 50 round box of anything and not jam. My favorite is the guys spraying Rem oil or WD40 into the action to try to get one to run. Works for about 5-10 shots then they're back spraying it down because of a failure to feed/extract/eject/other random malfunction. Mean while the 10/22 keeps on keeping on, burning through a 500 round brick with the occasional failure to fire from a round that has to be recycled to make it go boom.

 

[CZguy]

Extraction problems, and such like that sure, but actually broken as in throw it away? nope.

I've never seen any brand of rifle broken to the point that they need to be thrown away. I'm sure they exist, but I've never personally seen one.

4) It's funny how everyone says their mod 60 hardly ever jams, I haven't seen one yet make it through 1 50 round box of anything and not jam. My favorite is the guys spraying Rem oil or WD40 into the action to try to get one to run. Works for about 5-10 shots then they're back spraying it down because of a failure to feed/extract/eject/other random malfunction. Mean while the 10/22 keeps on keeping on, burning through a 500 round brick with the occasional failure to fire from a round that has to be recycled to make it go boom.

If you run a search of this forum you will find that this subject comes up every month or so. They usually start out with people making the normal valid points, but unfortunately can degenerate down to a purely emotional response.

All brands of semi auto .22s have the occasional rifle that won't run right. The thing to do is not to condemn it but fix it. Go to Rimfire Central for more info.

I have 11 different .22s, and there is both a Model 60 and a 10/22 represented. They both run flawlessly.

 

[rogertc1]

Buy a 10/22 for about $250 at Walmart. Then you can spend about a grand replacing the stock, barrel and trigger group. Then you have a accurate .22. Or you can buy a marlin 60 for around $250 and it will be as accurate as the $1250 race gun you made. Not as cool however and it won't impress the girls at the range.

 

[Water-Man]

Out of the box, the model 60!

 

[dom1104]

just to misinfomation isnt being spread, you dont have to spend anywhere NEAR a grand for an accurate ruger.

 

[LeontheProfessional]

Buy a 10/22 for about $250 at Walmart. Then you can spend about a grand replacing the stock, barrel and trigger group. Then you have a accurate .22. Or you can buy a marlin 60 for around $250 and it will be as accurate as the $1250 race gun you made. Not as cool however and it won't impress the girls at the range.

That is ridiculous. Ruger makes plenty of accurate bull barrel models that cost under 500 dollars much less 1000.

 

[dom1104]

My GM barrel cost me $125 bucks. and a trigger job is like $25. I dont know where people are getting these $1000 dollar figures.

And my rifle shoots excellently.

(edit: come to think of it, I sold my old barrel, so I think that barrel only cost me about $80.)

a far cry from $1000

 

[FenderTK421]

10/22 for me. Several, in fact.

 

[kiwihunta]

I own a 10/22,and i have in the past owned a couple of Marlins......the Marlin will shoot better ,its the micro grooved barrel......guns should be cleaned regulary so that shouldnt be an issue.....hitting your target is .The more accurate a rifle the more fun it is !!!.

 

[gunsandreligion]

I've never seen any brand of rifle broken to the point that they need to be thrown away. I'm sure they exist, but I've never personally seen one.

same with the ruger, I just never have heard a beleiveble story or had seen one wihch required parts replacement or a gunsmith and would really like evidence.

 

[CZguy]

same with the ruger, I just never have heard a beleiveble story or had seen one wihch required parts replacement or a gunsmith and would really like evidence.

I was referring to Ruger also. To quote myself.

I've never seen any brand of rifle broken to the point that they need to be thrown away. I'm sure they exist, but I've never personally seen one.

 

[Big Bill]

This is a dumb argument. I own both. In fact I own 3 marlin rimfires, two Ruger 10-22s, and a Henry H001. Each has it's unique strengths. If you like a tube fed rifle, then Marlin is a strong contender. If you like a rifle that is not only accurate but also very easily modified and upgraded, then a Ruger 10/22 is most likely your choice.

These days, IMHO, it's dumb not to own both. Why not have all the capabilities of both rifles?

 

[Jaybird78]

I have both, and both are fun. Marlin 60 is a used that I bought for $80 (missing rear sight, missing rear trigger guard screw, approx 2500 rounds of bulk ammo). I think I got one hell of a deal.

My Ruger 10/22 was purchased new by me when I was 18 yrs old. It is no longer in stock condition. I have another $200 dollars wrapped up in scope, barrel and stock.

The Ruger is easier to take down and customize.
The Marlin has the microgroove barrel as stock.

They are both great guns. I don't think you can go wrong with either in my opinion.
HOWEVER, have you looked at the Henry lever actions, the Frontier H001T to be exact.

 

[Col. Plink]

In comparing Marlin 60's with each other, my nephew's runs better than mine in terms of not jamming (though it is newer and mine is about 20 yrs old but very light use). I like the fact that the action is easily removed as an entire group: a CLP blast and a once-over with a pipecleaner and it's back to plinkin'! I can go a long way without having to do so, but his can go through a brick of Remi goldens without a hiccup.

I went through hundreds of CCI minimags one day without issue, getting VERY reliable accuracy at 100 yds on clay targets. Best day plinkin in a great while! By comparison the 10/22 I had (and sold) cycled magnificently but was frustratingly innacurate even at 50 yds regardless of ammo (but liked Remi Thunderbolts best; go figure).

 

[ArmedBear]

If you want a rifle that you can buy, clean and shoot, the Marlin 60 is the one. Mine now has a scope and swivel studs, and it's complete. The standard stock is stained one color, but it's laminate. The rifle is surprisingly accurate, and mine is very reliable -- and I'm not tolerant of guns that don't work, even .22s. It's my all-purpose .22 hunting rifle, and a pleasure to use.

If you want a rifle on which to learn about gunsmithing and spend a bunch of money over time, the 10/22 is the one to get. I sold mine. As it came, it wasn't something I could tolerate (see above). If I'm going to spend hundreds of dollars more than the purchase price of the 10/22 to make it satisfactory, I'd much rather buy a nicer gun to begin with -- and that's what I did, starting with the money from the sale. YMMV

 

[rogertc1]

I said you can spend $1000 easily in 10/22 after market stuff. Check out this link...

http://www.1022racerifle.com/

Even if you only spend $500 for race parts added to the $250 for the 10/22 that is $750
Which is a far cry from a Model 60 at $250 when it comes to accuracy per $$ spent.

JMO
I do have both guns myself. Every one should. My race 10/22 does impress the girls at the range but not so on the 60. Appearance is everything?

 

[ArmedBear]

I fail to see why one would spend Anschutz money on a 10/22 unless he/she were involved in serious competition that requires a semiauto. I'd take the Anschutz, thank you.

That said, I have about $950 total (spent incrementally) in a Mark II Target pistol, including multiple optics options, aftermarket parts and custom 'smithing. I can see getting into that kind of money for a competition gun. It just happens.

 

[CZguy]

Which is a far cry from a Model 60 at $250 when it comes to accuracy per $$ spent.

I rescued my model 60 from a pawn shop for $60.00 out the door. It cleaned up just fine. There's just no need to buy a new one when there are so many good used ones available.

 

[ArmedBear]

There's just no need to buy a new one when there are so many good used ones available.

It depends. Too many sellers have wanted too much, and the current laminate stock is functionally superior to some of the old ones. For <$150 new, it's hard to go way wrong either way.

But there's one really good reason to go with a new one: the 60 DLX 50th Anniversary Edition with a walnut stock, a gold-plated steel trigger, nice sights and studs.

 

[Big Bill]

That bolt spring in the marlin 60 is a bear to get back in without kinking it. My 10/22s are just as accurate as my Marlins. I like both brands.

 

[ArmedBear]

That bolt spring in the marlin 60 is a bear to get back in without kinking it.

I agree, though if you compress it into the bolt before putting the bolt in, it's not impossible.

I had as much "fun" wrestling with the 10/22.

My favorite .22 semiauto for cleaning is, hands down and 6 ways from Sunday, a .22LR AR upper. No spring wrestling AT ALL! They're a few pennies more expensive than a Marlin 60, though, and at least as much as a 10/22 costs once you have it working right.

 

[Snowdog]

I usually don't respond to necro-threads, but as I've been using the same Marlin model 60 for about 15 years with around ten bricks of various types of ammunition put through it, I can say with absolute certainty that the Model 60 can stand up to 10,000 rounds of ammunition without falling apart.

I did have the "shavings issue" within the first brick and it was concerning, but I haven't seen any in the past decade. My Marlin seems just as accurate as it was out of the box and no less reliable. Unless there's an issue with the ammunition, I can expect all 14 shots in my Marlin model 60 to load, fire and eject each cartridge perfectly (and accurately).

I know of plenty of others who have Marlin 60s who haven't had any problems, so I must say they are fine guns and exemplify value.

 

[ArmedBear]

If you close the bolt before loading the magazine, it's 15, not 14.