I have a S&W e-series 1911 and was thinking about getting a .22 conversion for it. I was looking at the wilson combat for $380 thinking it would be better than a Kimber for just a little less. Then I heard about Marvel Precision. I am really tempted to get the unit 1 with a 1 inch at 50 yards accuracy guarantee but with the combo rib with sights and scope mount which is what I would want it is $570. I still might get it but wanted to hear from you guys how yours is. My two biggest concerns is it doesn't have slide lock back and it also isn't a standard slide. Those who have what are your opinions of this gun.
Marvel Precision .22 conversion
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UpperAtmosphere
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I bought my father a Unit 1 for his birthday in June. It's a very nice unit and very accurate. Works a lot like the S&W Model 41 or the Kadet conversion slide for CZs. If you get one, magazines for GSG 1911s work well.
Walt Sherrill
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You understand that the conversion is jut the slide assembly and magazine? I ask, because you asked for "your opinions on this gun."
The Marvel unit is considered the Ferrari (or Porsche) of the conversion 1911/.22 world and is arguably more accurate than many dedictated .22 target pistols. Depending on the model and the money you're willing to spend, you can get phenomenal accuracy at 50 yards (or far better than anything else) at closer distances. Here's a link to TEST TARGETS from the Marvel website. I don't remember ever seeing one for sale, used -- although that may be a possibility.
http://www.marvelprecision.com/target.php
Can you believe .370" at 50 yards? Stunning.
If you're just looking for inexpensive plinking, look to one of the other conversion kits. If you're really focused on accuracy, the Marvel is the way to go.
Note: at one time Ciener (a firm that has irritated a lot of customers, but once built a lot of good units) also built a lot of the units sold under different names for big gunmakers. I suspect that a Ciener sold by another company (with that company's name on it) will get you good after-the-sale support if you have problems.
The Marvel unit is considered the Ferrari (or Porsche) of the conversion 1911/.22 world and is arguably more accurate than many dedictated .22 target pistols. Depending on the model and the money you're willing to spend, you can get phenomenal accuracy at 50 yards (or far better than anything else) at closer distances. Here's a link to TEST TARGETS from the Marvel website. I don't remember ever seeing one for sale, used -- although that may be a possibility.
http://www.marvelprecision.com/target.php
Can you believe .370" at 50 yards? Stunning.
If you're just looking for inexpensive plinking, look to one of the other conversion kits. If you're really focused on accuracy, the Marvel is the way to go.
Note: at one time Ciener (a firm that has irritated a lot of customers, but once built a lot of good units) also built a lot of the units sold under different names for big gunmakers. I suspect that a Ciener sold by another company (with that company's name on it) will get you good after-the-sale support if you have problems.
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Yeah I know it is just the slide assembly and magazine. I guess I did use the wrong term there and I stated in the first post that I have a 1911 I plan on using with it. I can use other .22s for plinking but I want this more to really work on my shooting especially with a 1911 and fine tune my skills. I also might use it for a informal smallbore pistol league the one local indoor range has.
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Zach S
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I dont like the unit 1 just because its not a standard slide... I was shooting one after swapping guns at the range one day, and went to rack the slide after reloading. Got a nice little cut from the rear sight... didnt really hurt, but it annoyed me for a few days being in my palm.
I would prefer a unit 2, Wilson, Kimber, Advantage Arms standard, etc. Still a 1911, so to speak.
I use a Ceiner that I had a local 'smith install a Novak front and hidden Bomar rear sight in.
Advantage Arms will slide lock on empty, never used one though. I thought it was an option on the Marvel... Wilson and Kimber, probably not. The ones I've seen looked to be based on Cieners. You can still lock the slide back, but they won't do it for you.
CIener: Great products, from a terrible company.
I would prefer a unit 2, Wilson, Kimber, Advantage Arms standard, etc. Still a 1911, so to speak.
I use a Ceiner that I had a local 'smith install a Novak front and hidden Bomar rear sight in.
Advantage Arms will slide lock on empty, never used one though. I thought it was an option on the Marvel... Wilson and Kimber, probably not. The ones I've seen looked to be based on Cieners. You can still lock the slide back, but they won't do it for you.
Ciener made the early kits for Kimber, and I think Wilson as well. Rebranded Ciener conversions didnt last though. Most of these companies either outsourced to someone else or started producing them for themself. One thing I see when looking for magazines is "will not work in 'blue box' conversions" or something along those lines.
CIener: Great products, from a terrible company.
bannockburn
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Looked at getting a Marvel Unit 2 a few years back but they were always out of stock on it. Went with a TacSol conversion for my 1911 frame and have been very satisfied with it.
stu1ritter
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In my bullseye competition days I shot a S&W 41 and then a custom Hi-Standard Victor (CPC barrel, trigger by Mike Curtis, etc) I now have a Nighthawk conversion unit mounted on my RIA target 1911 and find it just as accurate as my previous tack drivers. If you like the 1911 grip angle and trigger pull, the conversions are a treat.
Stu
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Unit 1 is the way to go if you want a conversion. My Unit 1 non-lockback shot 0.6" for 10 shots at 50 yards using Eley Target from a rest. Better than I can do! I prefer the non-lockback as 1) I can count to five and 2) it's one less thing to worry about going wrong in a rapid fire string. You'll notice that most dedicated target pistols do not have a auto lock-back feature for this reason.
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