I didnt order the dogtowns, I ordered the 6,000 pack of the Hornady 55 grain fmj. The lady said they'll probably never offer the 6k pack again. It isnt good that they are going to take until April, but I can wait. I ordered them as a knee jerk reaction anyway. I have other bullets to load, but I wanted them just incase things get hard to get. I usually order for years at a time when I buy components. I did recieve an email from them that Midway expects an executive order at anytime for a magazine ban so they're despirately trying to send out their high cap mags. Things are getting weird.