Might be moving to Massachussetts

[bannockburn]

armedaccountant

Personally I wouldn't care to live in any state that had such oppressive gun laws, no matter how much money or opportunity such a relocation would offer me. Having said that I hope your stay in MA works out for the best for both you and your family.

 

[Peter Gun]

Armed-
Sounds like you are well prepared for the move and will enjoy it greatly.
Don't forget to come visit us in VT! More great kayaking up here as well as lots of other great stuff.
Since its sounds like you would have adequate income, I suggest selling all your guns and getting new ones in ma that suit your new home. Save a lot of hassle.
If you like Italian food, you will be in heaven. Old north end is filled with great colonial history and unbelievably good food!

 

[SSN Vet]

Depending where in MA your job offer is, you should seriously look into living in NH and commuting across the border.

It is MUCH easier to get a MA non-resident CCW permit, than it is to get a resident CCW permit.

ME and NH have some of the best pro 2a environments in the country... and outside of the greater metro Boston area (which is huge) attitudes in MA are quite different.... but Boston drives the outcome in every MA statewide election, and their "betters" in the "educated" eastern 1/4 of the state are rabidly anti.

 

[AStone]

Very good opportunity=doubling my salary and breaking into 6 figure income. I understand the cost of living difference. We would be moving to the Westborough area. I am a history buff so being close to Boston is a big plus. I am a kayaker and the Boston harbor islands look amazing. Living in a different state wouldn't work for me. The longer the commute the less time I get with my family and my family is everything to me.

Wow! Salary doubling into 6 figs; yeah, I see your draw. For that, I guess I'd do it too -- for at least a year or two. And kayaking -- check. And anti-commute time: double check. I HATE commuting more than half hour by bike or bus.

And look at the positive side: you're just a few hours drive from the bottom of Penobscot Bay in Maine, which has thousands of accessible islands as part of a national (state?) kayak 'trail', and some of the islands are camp-able.

My last apartment there was 400 steps from open Atlantic at the mouth of Penobscot Bay. I want to live there again when I return. Here's a shot of one of the closest islands from the shore near my apartment. You can also catch a boat from a few miles north of there all the way to Greenland, and they stop in Labrador, Newfoundland and Baffin.

 

[Red Wind]

"When I drive from AR to PA, I go out of my way to drive AROUND that oppressive state." Critter

Wait, I still can't get my head around this. Someone would go from AR to PA via MA??? jonnyc

I believe poster Critter was thinking of driving around Maryland (MD) while the OP is headed for Massachusetts (MA) Just an error in the 2 letter postal abbreviation, many of which are confusing.

 

[oneounceload]

ME and NH have some of the best pro 2a environments in the country... and outside of the greater metro Boston area (which is huge) attitudes in MA are quite different.... but Boston drives the outcome in every MA statewide election, and their "betters" in the "educated" eastern 1/4 of the state are rabidly anti.

And true for NJ, MD, NY, CA, IL, CO, and on and on

 

[zb338]

Moving to Massachusetts is like getting a good offer
to go to Hell. That is, if you like guns and shooting.

Zeke

 

[Peter Gun]

All of us new englanders secretly work for the board of tourism

 

[oneounceload]

And the Red Sox have been my favorite sports team since 1956

Sorry for you backing such losers (go Yankees!)......

Moving to Massachusetts is like getting a good offer
to go to Hell. That is, if you like guns and shooting.

Not really, great gun clubs all over the region and since you can cross all of the states in a few hours max, not an issue................

 

[AStone]

Wait, I still can't get my head around this. Someone would go from AR to PA via MA??? jonnyc

I believe poster Critter was thinking of driving around Maryland (MD) while the OP is headed for Massachusetts (MA).
Just an error in the 2 letter postal abbreviation, many of which are confusing.

Hmm. I think we need to revise the maps.

Maryland (MD) is still south of MA, so getting from AR (Arkansas = Arkinsaw) to MD does not require driving through MA.

Am I missing something here? Are we confused yet?

 

[oneounceload]

Product of a public school education???????

 

[AStone]

Product of a public school education???????

Likely.

The person in this video (see below) exemplifies poor map reading skills,
and communication skills. I suspect that she majored in fashion and being cool.

I'm betting she doesn't own a gun, which is probably a good thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

 

[Deltaboy1984]

I was born and raised in Arkansas and I would strongly suggest to live in a better border state and Drive.

 

[Red Wind]

Hmm. I think we need to revise the maps.

Maryland (MD) is still south of MA, so getting from AR (Arkansas = Arkinsaw) to MD does not require driving through MA.

Am I missing something here? Are we confused yet?

It's simple. Critter thought the OP was moving to Maryland ,not Massachusetts. Ask him. I'm sure he's lurking around here.

And to oneounceload, in the current century, ( since 2001) the Red Sox have won 3 World Series to the Yanks 1.

I concede the 20th Century to New York and General Motors.

 

[AStone]

If I could re-assign the two letter state system,
I'd say MAine. The only single syllable state.
Furthest north on the US east coast.
Most challenging in which to live.
Most grounded culture.
Big ocean shores.

But 'they' gave it to MAss.
Not MarylanD.

Go f igure.

 

[armedaccountant]

I appreciate all the posts. Yes I know I am moving to a much more liberal land than I am used to. I can deal with it, my wife is a raging liberal(yes I will say that to her face) she would be very happy to live in liberal land, and a happy wife leads to a happy life.

As far as selling my guns and buying new ones. I have no interest in that. I like all of my guns to much too much. All of my guns except my SR40C and MKIII 22/45 were bought used. My 10/22 and Wingmaster were both manufactured in my birth year, not important but I think it is cool. Plus a 70s 10/22 has a metal trigger group, and a 70s Wingmaster is slick as better.

I am excited about being near Maine with some of the pictures. Penobscot bay sounds amazing.

I understand that deer hunting is shotgun only, luckily my Wingmaster is the firearm that feels the most natural to me. I have probably shot it more than any of my others besides my .22s.

If we move we will be moving to what I understand is a "green" area as far as local law enforcement approving CCW applications. My job definitely gives me a good reason for obtaining one since that is part of the process for getting a CCW in MA.

As someone said my life doesn't revolve around firearms 24/7. In the past few years my passions have been shifting away from shooting. I will always shoot and always love it. But lately I am more interested in a bow or something involving the water especially if it involves a kayak or fishing or both.

 

[Peter Gun]

Yeah, don't listen to all the southern hoopla about liberal land, still plenty of conservatives. My in laws are not the slightest bit liberal. There are two gun ranges near their house in the north Boston suburbs. The whole family has carry permits. If you need any help choosing a place to live or dealing with firearms issues contact me through pm and I'll try and help you out. My father in law is a good guy to know for this stuff, very well connected US Marine veteran.
If you want take your guns with, I believe the way you do it is you give them all to your local ffl in AR, move and get your permit, then have your ffl do the usual interstate transfer to an ffl in MA. I'm not expert on all the new hi cap rules, but pretty sure you won't be able to transfer in any 10+ round mags. You might want to see if you can get those before you move if you require them as the ban has raised the price of compliant ten round mags for some guns and these mags are near worthless in states with no ban.

 

[Devonai]

If we move we will be moving to what I understand is a "green" area as far as local law enforcement approving CCW applications. My job definitely gives me a good reason for obtaining one since that is part of the process for getting a CCW in MA.

Just make sure you get your LTC for "All Lawful Purposes," rather than any of the other choices. No reason to potentially restrict when you can carry. Leave that up to the CLEO of your town if they feel like adding a restriction. Don't volunteer for one.

 

[AStone]

Ok, now this is getting interesting and more focused. Cool.

AA (armedaccountant), sounds like you've got a good resource in Peter Gun. So interesting that there are two ranges near Boston.

Devonia, can you (or others) please elaborate a bit on the concept of "all lawful purposes" on the LTC (CCW?). I understand the concept, but wondering what the other choices are that you recommend staying away from. (I think I know, but ...) I'm going to be applying for CCW in two states next year, one resident, one non-resident -- so I'm beginning to learn the ropes.

I am excited about being near Maine with some of the pictures. Penobscot bay sounds amazing.

Glad to hear that, and glad to help. It's an amazing place (although my friends there would beat me -- a non-Mainer (who were born there) for telling good stories about it -- it's growing too fast for many there, and in directions that are not always healthy. But I'm singing it in this group because we need more sane, respectful, knowledgable gun owners and 2A advocates there.)

Here another tasty lure for sea kayakers. (I have been in the past -- Eddyline Falcon 18 -- aka "death needle" -- in Puget Sound -- but am not now -- or yet. Another one is on my list for next year when I get back up there.)

Here is a snapshot of my Maine wall map. Penobscot Bay (or Pen Bay, as it's called) is the biggest in Maine, and the biggest north of Chesapeake (IIRC). It's an astounding place, by far the nicest place I've ever lived or spent a lot of time (and that includes CO, NM, AZ, UT, OR, and WA, as well as in the southeast). However, it's not a place for weather weenies; by far the coldest, snowiest place I've ever lived. No longer see -30F and -40F -- more likely -10F - -20F these days, but the cold snaps last longer, and we have what my meteorologist friend calls "box car snow storms" : one after another after another ....; even life-long Mainers said last winter was the worst they'd ever seen.

You can get to 4 of the island by ferry out of Rockland, which has one of (if not THE) deepest ports on the east coast. That deeply cut, fractal coast is a kayaker's dream; so much protected water up in the fjords and bays, with really different geology along the way from SE to 'downeast'.

I'm trying to get you a zoom into Pen Bay from google maps, but my mac is not cooperating with me to get a smaller file size jpg, so it'll have to wait.

Oh, and remember: Maine is both a CCW state and an open carry state (although I rarely see the latter).

 

[Devonai]

In Massachusetts, a class A LTC may be issued for All Lawful Purposes, Employment, Target and Hunting, Sporting, or Other (defined by, apparently, the applicant). Whether or not the chief law enforcement officer for the town of residence applies one of the latter restrictions, there is no point in an applicant applying for anything other than All Lawful Purposes.

Since the OP mentioned some relation to his job, it would be a shame if he was issued an Employment restricted carry permit when he could have gotten an All Lawful Purposes permit if he'd just asked for it.

Your obsession with Penobscot bay is a little weird. I lived in Rockland for a year and Thomaston for six years, and at no time did I enjoy the scenery in Owls Head, Camden, Deer Isle, Acadia National Park, or Vinalhaven. No, not at all.

 

[AStone]

Thanks for the update re MA permits, Devonai. Makes sense, and I agree with you about AA's application. I get it.

My love of the coast of Maine is far from an "obsession", though. One can like a place a lot, even love it, without it being an obsession. Why is that so "weird"?

an idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person's mind.

That's hardly the case for me. I spend maybe an hour a week visiting images, maps, discussing what's going on there with friends there, etc. Heck, I don't even talk about Maine as much as Texans talk about Texas. But the topic is relevant here, and I miss it (since I've been away from home since May) so I took the chance to sing it's virtues.

However, as you just pointed out, it's not for everyone -- different folks, different strokes -- and that's just as well.

 

[Devonai]

That comment was meant to be sarcasm; of course I enjoyed my time around Penobscot Bay.

 

[Onward Allusion]

armedaccountant -

I personally wouldn't do it. It's about the cost of living and the guarantee to get a CCW (LTC). I would not ever want to move to a May-Issue State.

Worcester, MA is anywhere between 35% to 50% more expensive than AR, but you probably already know that.

 

[AStone]

That comment was meant to be sarcasm; of course I enjoyed my time around Penobscot Bay.

Ah. Got it. Sometimes sarcasm just doesn't come through with words alone. Need that body language.

 

[Red Wind]

Ah. Got it. Sometimes sarcasm just doesn't come through with words alone.

All you really need on THR is this little fellow: