MIM...Fact or Fiction

[RockyMtnTactical]

Well stated and illustrates the problems with these types of threads.

I'm trying to understand your motive. Not everyone knows what you may know. Also, to think that nobody should ever start a new thread about a topic that has already been discussed is kind of ridiculous. If we truly went by that kind of thinking there would hardly ever be a new post on a gunboard.

That said, things are always evolving and what may have been the answer 6 years ago or even 6 days ago may be different today.

Relax.

 

[rellascout]

I'm trying to understand your motive. Not everyone knows what you may know. Also, to think that nobody should ever start a new thread about a topic that has already been discussed is kind of ridiculous. If we truly went by that kind of thinking there would hardly ever be a new post on a gunboard.

That said, things are always evolving and what may have been the answer 6 years ago or even 6 days ago may be different today.

My motive is to illustrate that this is not a productive approach to the topic of MIM and that this discussion has been presented in this exact manner before and that methodology being used it flawed. The problem is that there is not real answer to this question. We do not have enough or the correct data to draw any meaningful conclusions. It is an exercise in futility which always ends poorly.

The use of the search feature will illustrate that.

 

[HM2PAC]

Bob Serva's comments on MIM parts. This should help to put things into a bit more perspective.

http://www.stiguns.com/FAQ-MIM.php

 

[rellascout]

MIM and PM parts if designed and processed properly are as good as the other process for most small part applications.

That is a big if and in reality that statement could be applied to just about any manufacturing process. Also IIRC Bob Serva has nothing to do with STI. He worked at Dan Wesson before and under CZ and now owns Fusion.

 

[HM2PAC]

Regardless of where he worked, he has some useful insight.

 

[Doc1911]

Just like anything else there is good and bad. There is good MIM and bad MIM. There is the RIGHT place to use it and the WRONG place, etc. I do not enjoy 1911s that have MIM - however, my HKs and a few others have it, etc. SOME companies have quality control issues NOW because of introducing certain MIM parts into their product line. Others use it in the RIGHT places with few to none issues.

 

[rellascout]

Regardless of where he worked, he has some useful insight.

Look at the comment again. It really reveals no truth about MIM parts. It states:

''MIM and PM parts if designed and processed properly are as good as the other process for most small part applications. "

You could replace MIM and PM that with Plastic parts or rubber parts. It is the design and process that is the real question and the determiner of any manufacturing processes quality and reliability. When was the last time you heard any company claim that their design was poor and the parts they made were incorrectly processed. So again if we do not know the particulars about the design and process each company is using what do we know beyond an anecdotal statement.

STIs MIM might be good today but that does not mean it will be good in the future. It sheds no light on the MIM used by Kimber, Colt or Sig.

 

[HM2PAC]

Just trying to be helpful.

Have a good time.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I think this thread has run it's course