The Tourist
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Twenty bucks! Heck, I'd have sharpened your knife for half that much just to steal the business.
Minimalist Game.
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$19.29 plus tax gets one a Vic Spartan and Classic combo pack.
Granted one has to borrow something to cut these out of the blister pack, still...these are sharp and ready to go once you do get them out.
*steals business*
*grin*
Granted one has to borrow something to cut these out of the blister pack, still...these are sharp and ready to go once you do get them out.
*steals business*
*grin*
Exmasonite
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i have a question on definition of "minimalist"- is it in reference to cost or least amount of gear carried?
i'm sure i could hit the wally world camp aisle and get a TON of stuff for < $50 including hatchet, machete, knife, lantern, lighter.
my take in minimalist was: blade, light, fire. for me, i spend a little extra $$ on my blade and light but consider myself a minimalist as i rarely carry more than the mini grip, E1E and bic lighter (+/- multi-tool)
i'm sure i could hit the wally world camp aisle and get a TON of stuff for < $50 including hatchet, machete, knife, lantern, lighter.
my take in minimalist was: blade, light, fire. for me, i spend a little extra $$ on my blade and light but consider myself a minimalist as i rarely carry more than the mini grip, E1E and bic lighter (+/- multi-tool)
The Tourist
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sm said:
Sorry, sm, just living up to beliefs as a tinker and highwayman. Certainly, you've heard of A.E. Housman?
Epitaph on Army of Mercenaries (1914)
These, in the days when heaven was falling,
The hour when earth's foundations fled,
Followed their mercenary calling
And took their wages and are dead.
Their shoulders held the sky suspended;
They stood, and the earth's foundations stay;
When God abandoned, these defended,
And saved the sum of things for pay.
I would have over-charged Mr. Housman to sharpen his knife. He would have understood.
sm
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Chico,
WE are getting folks to think around here.
Shush, don't tell 'em , lets keep it a secret. *wink*
Folks do not understand the differences in a Tinker not charging for doing something, charging for doing something and teaching one to do that something for themselves.
Akin to hustling-
It ain't hustling, just some folks pay money to educated is all - Mentors
Minimal is can be because one has to, and because one wants to.
Old boy has money.
Wife saw a Benz in Germany, and he paid cash to have it brought over.
Holland & Holland built him some nice guns.
Barn...yeah, some barn, full of neat cars from Ferrari, to Pantera, to Benz, Porche...
Knives run from $ to $$$$ , custom jobbies.
Hunted all over the world.
He has won medals shooting.
He shows up in a mid 60's truck, no air conditioning.
20 ga single shot, and only uses 12 shells to fell a limit of 15 doves.
Purina Advertising knife , he got free too many decades ago.
For fun, he run 50/50 with a borrowed H&R Topper shooting trap a fella give $40 for at the pawn shop. That fella , has a $50k custom Trap gun.
He found a old Roy Rogers Pocket knife at the pawn shop too.
These two grew up poor, and they learned to shoot, as they did not like being hungry.
Beans and Cornbread is fine, just sometimes a bit of meat on the table is nice.
Three .22 ctgs, bought loose at the store.
A kid was supposed to get meat, and bring back the other two ctgs they did not use.
Now if'n they shot them other two ctgs, there had better be two more "meat" to show for it.
Don't be missing a goose, with a single shot .22 rifle, or any other "meat".
Minimal can be one has to, or because they can.
Correct basic fundamentals is the key.
WE are getting folks to think around here.
Shush, don't tell 'em , lets keep it a secret. *wink*
Folks do not understand the differences in a Tinker not charging for doing something, charging for doing something and teaching one to do that something for themselves.
Akin to hustling-
It ain't hustling, just some folks pay money to educated is all - Mentors
Minimal is can be because one has to, and because one wants to.
Old boy has money.
Wife saw a Benz in Germany, and he paid cash to have it brought over.
Holland & Holland built him some nice guns.
Barn...yeah, some barn, full of neat cars from Ferrari, to Pantera, to Benz, Porche...
Knives run from $ to $$$$ , custom jobbies.
Hunted all over the world.
He has won medals shooting.
He shows up in a mid 60's truck, no air conditioning.
20 ga single shot, and only uses 12 shells to fell a limit of 15 doves.
Purina Advertising knife , he got free too many decades ago.
For fun, he run 50/50 with a borrowed H&R Topper shooting trap a fella give $40 for at the pawn shop. That fella , has a $50k custom Trap gun.
He found a old Roy Rogers Pocket knife at the pawn shop too.
These two grew up poor, and they learned to shoot, as they did not like being hungry.
Beans and Cornbread is fine, just sometimes a bit of meat on the table is nice.
Three .22 ctgs, bought loose at the store.
A kid was supposed to get meat, and bring back the other two ctgs they did not use.
Now if'n they shot them other two ctgs, there had better be two more "meat" to show for it.
Don't be missing a goose, with a single shot .22 rifle, or any other "meat".
Minimal can be one has to, or because they can.
Correct basic fundamentals is the key.
FourNineFoxtrot
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Tourist-
The A.E. Housman poem!
I heard it the first time when I saw The Dogs of War.
Didn't realize that the song at the end was actually Housman's poem until much later. Didn't realize that Housman's poem was a response to a German newspaper's calling British soldiers "mercenaries" until I did some reading about it.
Brings to mind another great scene from the movie:
Vive le mort, vive le guerre, vive le sacre mercenaire!
Now I've got a hankering to watch that movie again. Good times. And, aye, a man makes his living how he can. As a former mall ninja, I know a little something about wearing a despised uniform for money.
The A.E. Housman poem!
I heard it the first time when I saw The Dogs of War.
Didn't realize that the song at the end was actually Housman's poem until much later. Didn't realize that Housman's poem was a response to a German newspaper's calling British soldiers "mercenaries" until I did some reading about it.
Brings to mind another great scene from the movie:
Vive le mort, vive le guerre, vive le sacre mercenaire!
Now I've got a hankering to watch that movie again. Good times. And, aye, a man makes his living how he can. As a former mall ninja, I know a little something about wearing a despised uniform for money.
sm
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Yep.
Actually "Bootlegger" is one name applied to me.
There are others...
Playing the game as I am familiar with, sometimes means going minimal.
Right now, I am running around with a Vic Classic, SD , without the key ring, and it has not been sharpened since the day I received it.
I received a Medical Alert as someone fussed about me not wearing one, that sez I am allergic to Aspirin.
The split ring off the Classic, is being used instead of the spring ring, so a person in greater need than I, can slip that Med Alert over her neck.
I figure ER folks will figger out I do not do well with ASA once I start going into shock again...
Minimal - yeah I know about that.
Out of the Country with my Lady Partner, and others we run with, some of my stuff was stolen from a hotel safe.
[Inside job for sure].
Custom folding knife, Single blade Trapper, with Ivory Handles and a Green Diamond bezel set into the handle. I happen to like green.
They got my Omega Chrono, and 18k yellow gold pocket watch, on a 18k yg chain, with a 18 k yg pocket knife.
We had all gone out to eat. I had my Steak Knife.
Custom, small fixed, with a handle of 18kyg alternating bands of Rose, Green and Yellow gold, with a green diamond set in the end of the handle.
My watch for the evening, US $20 Gold coin, that was actually a watch.
My money and ID, in a 18k yellow gold "paper clip".
Lighter was a 18 kyg Dunhill, with Dunhill smokes
Knife, watch, paper clip, lighter and smokes.
My lady partner had her Steak knife.
Custom , with a Mobe' pearl on the end .
Now this knife came with two 18 yg and platinum screwdriver.
One had the handle 18 yellow gold, with the screwdriver platinum and the other just opposite. Both had a diamond set into the end of the handle.
These fit the 18k yellow or Platinum screws with flat heads to change handles.
Simple, still elegant, to change handles of Lapis, Coral, Abalone, Pave' dias set in Plat, Ebony, Ivory, ....
She chose coral to match her earrings, and pendant. She wore a simple 18k yg Patek, and had a 18 yg "match box" to light Players.
We carried our shoes as we walked the beach holding hands heading to dinner.
Dressed in shorts, she wearing a polo shirt, and me with a 100% cotton oxford shirt unbuttoned. I buttoned it upon arrival to eat.
Minimalist for one of our kind, was the Custom knife with single blade, handle made of Lapis and the cork screw was Platinum.
She opened the wine with that corkscrew...
It does not take much to go out to dinner, look out sitting in Jamacia, and walk the beach.
Head down to the Burger Shack, and hang out until daylight.
A Red Stripe opens just fine with a 14k yellow gold opener...
One of the guys had one in his pocket...
Still, I am running around with a SAK Classic, no key ring, and I have not sharpened it.
I gotta coffee mug I can flip over if I need to do so.
Sharpener?
Not me.
I did, but I don't.
Vets needed these, as in Rehab they are using Pocket Pals to whittle.
I'd use a Pocket Pal if I had one...I use that Classic when I run by to say hello...
I whittle with a Classic...strop on my jeans, or hand, or the last time I used a index card.
Carl Levitian
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Those little classics get around.
An article in Knife World a few years back about Victorinox, revealed that they make 35 million knives a year. About 9 million of them are classics. Its thier most popular model world wide.
About that time, one of the knife magazines had a picture of a classic on the cover with the caption, "The worlds most confiscated knife." It seems like the classic gets taken by TSA by the bushel basket load. Selling 9 MILLION of the things world wide, year in, year out, everyone on the planet must have a couple.
A few years ago I handed out classics as stocking stuffers to all the non-knife people in my family. They loved them, made some converts. Especially the women folk. They loved the little sissors and nail file. Then there was this lady who had a table at the gun show, had a big box of them. TSA kives. Classics were 3 dollars apiece, or 2.50 for 3 of them. She dropped her price to 2 dollars when I bought a whole bunch of them as hand outs. More converts to the fold. Check out girl at Staples, college guy in the parking lot of Lowes.
Classic, usefull little sucker.
And they sharpen up good on the bottom of a coffee cup.
An article in Knife World a few years back about Victorinox, revealed that they make 35 million knives a year. About 9 million of them are classics. Its thier most popular model world wide.
About that time, one of the knife magazines had a picture of a classic on the cover with the caption, "The worlds most confiscated knife." It seems like the classic gets taken by TSA by the bushel basket load. Selling 9 MILLION of the things world wide, year in, year out, everyone on the planet must have a couple.
A few years ago I handed out classics as stocking stuffers to all the non-knife people in my family. They loved them, made some converts. Especially the women folk. They loved the little sissors and nail file. Then there was this lady who had a table at the gun show, had a big box of them. TSA kives. Classics were 3 dollars apiece, or 2.50 for 3 of them. She dropped her price to 2 dollars when I bought a whole bunch of them as hand outs. More converts to the fold. Check out girl at Staples, college guy in the parking lot of Lowes.
Classic, usefull little sucker.
And they sharpen up good on the bottom of a coffee cup.
sm
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Re: Classics.
I like the old ones better.
These did not have toothpicks or tweezers and the scissors had a screw instead of brad.
Just me, I think Vic needs to do a Classic with nothing except a key ring.
Offer colors, especially Stay-Glow.
Civil Disobedience at its finest.
Airports, Schools, Courthouses and everywhere else being inundated with "Classic Fobs".
All over the world...
Victorinox - are you paying attention?
I like the old ones better.
These did not have toothpicks or tweezers and the scissors had a screw instead of brad.
Just me, I think Vic needs to do a Classic with nothing except a key ring.
Offer colors, especially Stay-Glow.
Civil Disobedience at its finest.
Airports, Schools, Courthouses and everywhere else being inundated with "Classic Fobs".
All over the world...
Victorinox - are you paying attention?
sixgunner455
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^..^ 
That's too funny, steve. I'd buy a bunch of them!
That's too funny, steve. I'd buy a bunch of them!
Dionysusigma
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Some basic skills can forgo the use of a compass--
At night, find the north star.
During the day, make note of where the sun rises and sets.
Mountain ranges, except for only two (that I can think of right now), always run north-south.
Many cities' streets are laid out on a grid-pattern for the most part, with streets also following north-south and east-west.
Do you have a map with you to begin with, and are you someplace unfamiliar?
At night, find the north star.
During the day, make note of where the sun rises and sets.
Mountain ranges, except for only two (that I can think of right now), always run north-south.
Many cities' streets are laid out on a grid-pattern for the most part, with streets also following north-south and east-west.
Do you have a map with you to begin with, and are you someplace unfamiliar?
Piedmont Plinker
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Minamalism:
I am well aquainted with it. Why? Not because I spend a lot of time on the streets, or survival camping, but because I am in a very controlled enviroment- namely, about to enter 10th grade.
Although my school is private, it still has a ZT policy. You can have sciccors, etc, but still, no knives.
Swisscard came in handy last year, when I had a bigger wallet.
Take knife out, bingo, you have a small flashlight, a screwdriver, tweezers, sciccors, magnifying glass, pen, pin.
Now, I carry a smaller wallet, and pocket carry a Wenger Air Traveler.
Sciccors, eyeglass screwdriveer, T&T, and a nail file.
Wenger file is pointy, couyld be used to poke stuff in a pinch.
Pens are another thing. You can use a pen (or pencil) as a probe, an auger, a writing utensil, and a makeshift weapon.
Wine knife, waiters knife, whatever you call it, are commonly included in hotel suites.
Useful little buggers, with blade, bottle opener, and corkscrew.
I am well aquainted with it. Why? Not because I spend a lot of time on the streets, or survival camping, but because I am in a very controlled enviroment- namely, about to enter 10th grade.
Although my school is private, it still has a ZT policy. You can have sciccors, etc, but still, no knives.
Swisscard came in handy last year, when I had a bigger wallet.
Take knife out, bingo, you have a small flashlight, a screwdriver, tweezers, sciccors, magnifying glass, pen, pin.
Now, I carry a smaller wallet, and pocket carry a Wenger Air Traveler.
Sciccors, eyeglass screwdriveer, T&T, and a nail file.
Wenger file is pointy, couyld be used to poke stuff in a pinch.
Pens are another thing. You can use a pen (or pencil) as a probe, an auger, a writing utensil, and a makeshift weapon.
Wine knife, waiters knife, whatever you call it, are commonly included in hotel suites.
Useful little buggers, with blade, bottle opener, and corkscrew.
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I found it quite interesting.
My ideas to fill out a person needing inexpensive edc items is as follows:
Bic lighter $1
bandana $1 (comes in a 2-pack for roughly $2)
utility knife $2 (extra blades come as a 5-pack for a little over $1)
Rayovac AAA light $3
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total cost around $7 or $8 with tax. And now this person has a means of making fire, purifying water, seeing in the dark, getting out of a smoke-filled or powerless building, light cutting chores, etc.
Mine is only marginally more expensive:
standard Bic lighter $1
bandana $1
Vic Hiker SAK $18
Fenix E01 $15
(wallet, cell, keys also)
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total cost $35
My ideas to fill out a person needing inexpensive edc items is as follows:
Bic lighter $1
bandana $1 (comes in a 2-pack for roughly $2)
utility knife $2 (extra blades come as a 5-pack for a little over $1)
Rayovac AAA light $3
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total cost around $7 or $8 with tax. And now this person has a means of making fire, purifying water, seeing in the dark, getting out of a smoke-filled or powerless building, light cutting chores, etc.
Mine is only marginally more expensive:
standard Bic lighter $1
bandana $1
Vic Hiker SAK $18
Fenix E01 $15
(wallet, cell, keys also)
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total cost $35
Maybe not dollar store items, but very reasonably priced and useful items...
Your run of the mill SAK (I prefer models with old style magnifying glass and in line Phillips). $20-$25
Freedom Photon - $10 (I like the covert tip which might be a few bucks more).
Split Pea Lighter - $11
For $30 bucks or so, you can be equipped with some quality items IMO.
Edit: Oops didn't bother to read the dates on this thread before responding. Oh well, an interesting thread nonetheless.
Your run of the mill SAK (I prefer models with old style magnifying glass and in line Phillips). $20-$25
Freedom Photon - $10 (I like the covert tip which might be a few bucks more).
Split Pea Lighter - $11
For $30 bucks or so, you can be equipped with some quality items IMO.
Edit: Oops didn't bother to read the dates on this thread before responding. Oh well, an interesting thread nonetheless.
TimboKhan
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Not applicable to everyone, or maybe even most, but for some of us you need to watch the bandana color. I work with at-risk kids and I have a blue bandana in my EDC bag that I never gave one thought too when I stuck it in there. The gang kids that I work with daily all know I am not showing favoritism, but some of the more hardcore kids were offended on general principle and it did cause some problems. I no longer carry a blue (or red) bandana, and instead carry one that has a map of Rocky Mountain National Park on it, which I like better anyway since I love maps and am a nerd.
seeker_two
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Good advice, TK....
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