Monty Python Logic

[Dionysusigma]

"So logically, if she weighs the same as a duck, then she's made of wood. And therefore..."


I had a line of thought just now that makes sense on paper, but may be so full of holes that it's just plain silly. Please excuse me, but the following makes sense to me.

- Most Mosin-Nagant stripper clips that exist today really suck.
- Apparently, there are conversions (albeit not very safe due to action strength) for Enfields to be rebarreled to 7.62x54R.
- Most, if not all, basic rebarreling jobs require that the case head be the same size for the new cartridge, IE a Garand converted from .30-06 into .308 or a 1911 rechambered into .50 GI.
- During a fit of boredom one day, I was playing around with some 7.92x57 Mauser stripper clips, but the casing I was slipping on and off of 'em were 6.5x55 Swede. They seemed to fit quite well.

So, logically, wouldn't an Enfield stripper clip work for loading 7.62x54R into a Mosin-Nagant? And therefore, inexpensively solve one of the only problems that the entire series has out of unfortunate circumstance?

I'd much appreciate it if someone could test out this theory for me... load 7.62x54 into an Enfield strip; insert it into the guide on a Mosin-Nagant; load all five rounds quickly, easily, and smoothly; and cycle the entire magazine to check for rim-lock.

It probably won't work, but if it does...


"... a WITCH!"

 

[R.W.Dale]

NOPE doesn't work, I just tied it ans x54r rounds are a VERY tight fit going into a SMLE stripper. It would take a hammer to strip the rounds into the rifle.



"Now go away or I shall taunt you again for a second time!"

 

[Dionysusigma]

Ah. *sigh* Alrighty, then. Thanks, krochus.

Wonder if anything else would work...

 

[Devonai]

Just use a strip of Scotch tape on either side of the rounds.

On a related note, I was curious to see if Springfield 1903 strippers would work with 8mm Mauser/Yugo M48. The clip held the rounds just fine, but it was the wrong shape for the receiver notch.

 

[MechAg94]

Ever tried those Swiss K31 stripper clips? They contain the whole round, not just grabbing the back of the case.

I have some 7.62X54 at home, I'll have to see if they fit. With that rim, they may be too fat to fit.

 

[cracked butt]

- During a fit of boredom one day, I was playing around with some 7.92x57 Mauser stripper clips, but the casing I was slipping on and off of 'em were 6.5x55 Swede. They seemed to fit quite well.

The 8mm mauser clips will not work in a Swede rifle however- once again wrong shape.

Usually only clips designed for a certain rifle will work for a particular rifle. One exception that I use often is swedish clips with my 03A3- works almost perfectly, but not quite as good as 1903 clips.

 

[R.W.Dale]

Swedish Mauser strippers also work flawlessly for loading a French MAS36.

 

[ReadyontheRight]

"It's a fair cop."
"Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn! Burn!... "
"Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?"
"I am Arthur, King of the Britons."

 

[MechAg94]

Okay, the K31 clips don't work. The rim is too big and won't fit through the metal part.

 

[CornCod]

Mauser stripper clips work well for opening Spam, Spam, Spam cans.

 

[Chipperman]

Please God, make them stop!!

 

[Mk VII]

Springfield ones work very well in 6.5mm Arisakas

 

[NailGun]

Please God, make them stop!!

"Prepare the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch".

 

[MechAg94]

What? Behind the rabbit?
No, It is the rabbit!

 

[R.W.Dale]

Please God, make them stop!!

Ah don' wanna talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal food-trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!

 

[NailGun]

"I protest....this thread is Silly!"

"And now for something completely different...."

 

[Chipperman]

....Waiting for English Kanigit to chime in....

 

[dispatch55126]

ALBATROSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Radagast]

"I'd like to answer this question if I may in two ways. Firstly in my normal voice and then in a kind of silly high-pitched whine."

TV Scripts: http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/justthewords.htm

Movie Scripts:http://www.serve.com/bonzai/monty/

Does Brave Sir Robin belong in Strategy & Tactics?


Minstrel: Robin:

Brave Sir Robin ran away. No!
Bravely ran away away.... I didn't!
When Danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled No!!
Yes brave Sir Robin turned about I didn't!
And gallantly chickened out..

Bravely taking to his feet I never did!
He beat a very brave retreat All lies!
Brave as ??-??, brave Sir Robin!

I've only ever seen Python quotation wars on gun forums. I'm not sure what that says about us, but they are fun.

 

[ReadyontheRight]

Dear Sir, I am glad to hear that your studio audience disapproves of the last skit as strongly as I. As a naval officer I abhor the implication that the Royal Navy is a haven for cannibalism. It is well known that we now have the problem relatively under control, and that it is the RAF who now suffer the largest casualties in this area. And what do you think the Argylls ate in Aden. Arabs? Yours etc. Captain B.J. Smethwick in a white wine sauce with shallots, mushrooms and garlic.

 

[jerkface11]

NI!!

 

[sacp81170a]

Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say "Ni" at will to old ladies. There is a pestilence upon this land! nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this point in time.

 

[Cosmoline]

Been there, done that. It's a fine idea, though. On the plus side, a lot of the "children of Mauser" cartridges from 8x57JS to 7x57 to .30'06 to all the variants thereof will ride fine on old 8mm stripper clips.

The key with the Mosin clips is this:

 

[MechAg94]

You will tell us what we want or I will say Ni to you a second time.

 

[pete f]

Oh to be in the Castle Anthrax.......






and now for something completely different...
the people responsible for the sacking of the moose have been sacked...