Deadman
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Just heard on the Fox Report that Steven Spielberg and his 'Band of Brothers crew' will start production on another 10 part BoB tv series. This time set in the Pacific theatre.
More Band of Brothers !
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Destructo6
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Sweet, can't wait.
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If they base it on a real unit, and use the real vets as advisers, like Band of Brothers, it should be good. Nothing works like the bare truth.
If they do the typical Hollywood hit movie follow-up and base it on a fictional story, it's a toss up.
If they do the typical Hollywood hit movie follow-up and base it on a fictional story, it's a toss up.
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Here's your chance. Who should they follow to remain true to the BoB formula of following one unit throughout the war.
I'm no military historian, but there has to be a way to follow an infantry unit of the Second Marine Division through World War II.
Some members of this unit served in the following battles: Pearl Harbor, Guadalcanal, Tarawa (where it was awarded a Presidential Unit Citation), and on to Saipan, Tinian, and Okinawa.
That'd be a wild ride. End it with word of the atomic bombs hitting Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Your nominees?
Here's your chance. Who should they follow to remain true to the BoB formula of following one unit throughout the war.
I'm no military historian, but there has to be a way to follow an infantry unit of the Second Marine Division through World War II.
Some members of this unit served in the following battles: Pearl Harbor, Guadalcanal, Tarawa (where it was awarded a Presidential Unit Citation), and on to Saipan, Tinian, and Okinawa.
That'd be a wild ride. End it with word of the atomic bombs hitting Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Your nominees?
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Hmmm. I forsee this will push me over the edge and I will be forced to finally buy a Garand.
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No brainer, the story of "Flags of Our Fathers" the two raisings of the flags at Iwo Jima, and the lives of those few who survived.
I don't. Not only does it have that "been there, done that feel" all of the later epic battles in the Pacific were fought exclusively by the Corps as the Army is pretty much out of the picture after the Phillipines were secured and they were gearing up for Operation Olympic.
IMO, you can't do a Pacific story without Okinawa, or Iwo Jima, or trying to get through kamikaze attacks on troop ships, and the Army won't take you there historically. They also won't take you to Tarawa or Pelielu or any of the other mid-campaign's horrific battles.
The Army story in the Pacific has merit: Guadalcanal, Corregidor, the battle for Manila, among others, but it would also lack the continuity that following the Marines would provide.
The War in the Pacific was largely a Navy/Marine show in the northernmost approach. They should be given their due.
Please, God, let this be true.
Any links?
Nevermind. Found one: www.spielbergfilms.com.
Gawd, the wait....:banghead:
Any links?
Nevermind. Found one: www.spielbergfilms.com.
Gawd, the wait....:banghead:
Cosmoline
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My vote would be for a unit of the Second Infantry Division. That now-forgotten division fought from Attu to Okinawa. It would be a good chance to recreate Attu--one of the very first US amphibious assaults of the war and a horrible battle in every respect. I get the sense that 99% of those in the lower 48 have forgotten all about the Japanese invasion of Alaska.
But, in reality, it's bound to be about some Marines. The Army got their coverage in BoB part I.
But, in reality, it's bound to be about some Marines. The Army got their coverage in BoB part I.
wingnutx
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I recently found my dad's copy of "Follow Me", the history of the 2nd Marines in the Pacific. Apparently the Corps sent a copy to everyone who served during WWII. The letter from the Commandant is still tucked into the jacket.
I'm sure that book would have a few clues for the producers.
I'm sure that book would have a few clues for the producers.
simon
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"Flags of Our Fathers" was a great suggestion!
Got my book autographed by the author and hes a really nice guy.
This can't be done re: the pacific theater w/o doing the story about the Marine Corps.
My suggestion would be to follow the Raiders,who did the island hopping campaign capturing the jap islands one at a time w/amphibous assaults.
Got my book autographed by the author and hes a really nice guy.
This can't be done re: the pacific theater w/o doing the story about the Marine Corps.
My suggestion would be to follow the Raiders,who did the island hopping campaign capturing the jap islands one at a time w/amphibous assaults.
shooten
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From the Spielberg website:
Well, if this is true, we won't be seeing a true story in this mini-series. Too bad Stephen Ambrose didn't write something before he died. I'm sure it will be good. I don't believe Saving Private Ryan was based on a true story either.
Scott
Well, if this is true, we won't be seeing a true story in this mini-series. Too bad Stephen Ambrose didn't write something before he died. I'm sure it will be good. I don't believe Saving Private Ryan was based on a true story either.
Scott
MolonLabe416
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The best book I've read on the Marines in the PTO was "With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa".
It did a better job of "putting me there" than any book I've read. Highly recommended reading and would make an outstanding movie.
Here's some comments from www.amazon.com:
In his own book, Wartime, Paul Fussell called With the Old Breed "one of the finest memoirs to emerge from any war." John Keegan referred to it in The Second World War as "one of the most arresting documents in war literature." And Studs Terkel was so fascinated with the story he interviewed its author for his book, "The Good War." What has made E.B. Sledge's memoir of his experience fighting in the South Pacific during World War II so devastatingly powerful is its sheer honest simplicity and compassion.
Now including a new introduction by Paul Fussell, With the Old Breed presents a stirring, personal account of the vitality and bravery of the Marines in the battles at Peleliu and Okinawa. Born in Mobile, Alabama in 1923 and raised on riding, hunting, fishing, and a respect for history and legendary heroes such as George Washington and Daniel Boone, Eugene Bondurant Sledge (later called "Sledgehammer" by his Marine Corps buddies) joined the Marines the year after the bombing of Pearl Harbor and from 1943 to 1946 endured the events recorded in this book. In those years, he passed, often painfully, from innocence to experience.
Sledge enlisted out of patriotism, idealism, and youthful courage, but once he landed on the beach at Peleliu, it was purely a struggle for survival. Based on the notes he kept on slips of paper tucked secretly away in his New Testament, he simply and directly recalls those long months, mincing no words and sparing no pain. The reality of battle meant unbearable heat, deafening gunfire, unimaginable brutality and cruelty, the stench of death, and, above all, constant fear. Sledge still has nightmares about "the bloody, muddy month of May on Okinawa." But, as he also tellingly reveals, the bonds of friendship formed then will never be severed.
Sledge's honesty and compassion for the other marines, even complete strangers, sets him apart as a memoirist of war. Read as sobering history or as high adventure, With the Old Breed is a moving chronicle of action and courage.
And:
With the Old Breed, by E.B. Sledge is the best personal account of combat that I have ever read. It is brutally honest, as Sledge does not gloss over the horrific nightmare that is war.After reading Slede's book, it is no small wonder that 26,000 Americans lost their sanity in the Okinawa battle alone. He spares us none of the gory details, yet he delivers this true account in an eloquent style that gives the story even more impact. Sledge does not only desribe the fight against the Japanese,but also the mental battle raging within men on the front line, as he himself fights to remain sane amid the filth, fear and misery that were the battles of Peleliu and Okinawa.It is at times moving, and at other times stomach turning. At all times though it is extremely riveting, and I found that this book was very hard to put down. One can also not put down this book without a profound appreciation for the young men who went through the worst kind of hell for their country.
It did a better job of "putting me there" than any book I've read. Highly recommended reading and would make an outstanding movie.
Here's some comments from www.amazon.com:
In his own book, Wartime, Paul Fussell called With the Old Breed "one of the finest memoirs to emerge from any war." John Keegan referred to it in The Second World War as "one of the most arresting documents in war literature." And Studs Terkel was so fascinated with the story he interviewed its author for his book, "The Good War." What has made E.B. Sledge's memoir of his experience fighting in the South Pacific during World War II so devastatingly powerful is its sheer honest simplicity and compassion.
Now including a new introduction by Paul Fussell, With the Old Breed presents a stirring, personal account of the vitality and bravery of the Marines in the battles at Peleliu and Okinawa. Born in Mobile, Alabama in 1923 and raised on riding, hunting, fishing, and a respect for history and legendary heroes such as George Washington and Daniel Boone, Eugene Bondurant Sledge (later called "Sledgehammer" by his Marine Corps buddies) joined the Marines the year after the bombing of Pearl Harbor and from 1943 to 1946 endured the events recorded in this book. In those years, he passed, often painfully, from innocence to experience.
Sledge enlisted out of patriotism, idealism, and youthful courage, but once he landed on the beach at Peleliu, it was purely a struggle for survival. Based on the notes he kept on slips of paper tucked secretly away in his New Testament, he simply and directly recalls those long months, mincing no words and sparing no pain. The reality of battle meant unbearable heat, deafening gunfire, unimaginable brutality and cruelty, the stench of death, and, above all, constant fear. Sledge still has nightmares about "the bloody, muddy month of May on Okinawa." But, as he also tellingly reveals, the bonds of friendship formed then will never be severed.
Sledge's honesty and compassion for the other marines, even complete strangers, sets him apart as a memoirist of war. Read as sobering history or as high adventure, With the Old Breed is a moving chronicle of action and courage.
And:
With the Old Breed, by E.B. Sledge is the best personal account of combat that I have ever read. It is brutally honest, as Sledge does not gloss over the horrific nightmare that is war.After reading Slede's book, it is no small wonder that 26,000 Americans lost their sanity in the Okinawa battle alone. He spares us none of the gory details, yet he delivers this true account in an eloquent style that gives the story even more impact. Sledge does not only desribe the fight against the Japanese,but also the mental battle raging within men on the front line, as he himself fights to remain sane amid the filth, fear and misery that were the battles of Peleliu and Okinawa.It is at times moving, and at other times stomach turning. At all times though it is extremely riveting, and I found that this book was very hard to put down. One can also not put down this book without a profound appreciation for the young men who went through the worst kind of hell for their country.
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shooten
I may be wrong, but that read like "It's not going to be based on an existing book, like Band of Brothers, but on other historical facts, accounts, etc. "
I doubt it's going to be a SPR wank.
('Least, I HOPE not!)
I may be wrong, but that read like "It's not going to be based on an existing book, like Band of Brothers, but on other historical facts, accounts, etc. "
I doubt it's going to be a SPR wank.
('Least, I HOPE not!)
shooten
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Phyphor,
Agreed. I read it to say that it wouldn't be based on a single work, ie. BoB, and the "story" would be based on historical events. I'm not very articulate today with 6 of my relatives staying with us last night and my mother-in-law here for a week. She's a flaming liberal. We have some great conversations.
Scott
Agreed. I read it to say that it wouldn't be based on a single work, ie. BoB, and the "story" would be based on historical events. I'm not very articulate today with 6 of my relatives staying with us last night and my mother-in-law here for a week. She's a flaming liberal. We have some great conversations.
Scott
Cosmoline-that was the 7th Infantry Division (Hourglass) and not the 2nd I.D. (Indianhead). The 2nd ID landed at D-day + 1 and spent their time in the European Theatre.
http://www.grunts.net/army/7thid.html
http://www.grunts.net/army/7thid.html
The idea for it was. In one of Ambrose's books (I think it was D-Day) he tells of a paratrooper named Niland who lost two brothers in combat. He was pulled out and sent home.
MolonLabe416,
WTOB would be an excellent choice for a Spielberg dramatization. It's the best Pacific memoir that I've read, too.
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Horrible battle on Attu & Kiska? I thought the Japanese skedaddled before our troops even landed there. Still, it would be good since most folks forget that it's the first time since the War of 1812 that our soil has been invaded by a hostile foreign power.
Schuey2002
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Let the waiting begin!
( I don't have HBO..) :banghead:
( I don't have HBO..) :banghead:
Thumper
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Hard for an Army dog to admit this, but I agree with Boats.
Hope they can work in a word about Ernie Pyle.
I'm looking forward to it.
Hope they can work in a word about Ernie Pyle.
I'm looking forward to it.
robear
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Awesome!!!! The original is one of my most treasured DVD sets.. CAN'T WAIT for the next one!!!
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