Mosin M44 Problem

[TargetTerror]

I bought a really nice condition M44 over the weekend, but now the firing pin/bolt won't catch on the trigger when the bolt is closed. When I close the bolt now, it decocks as though I had my finger on the trigger while closing the bolt. It looks to my very untrained eye like the square part of the trigger that meets the sear is not extending high enough into the bolt. The forward part that keeps the bolt from sliding out still works, and I have to push the trigger to remove the bolt completely.

The gun was apparently purchased, cleaned up, and then returned for some reason. I'm wondering if this might be the cause? Does this sound like something worth having fixed (not at my cost) or should I just start over with a new Mosin? (My shop is very good, so I'm sure they'll switch it with a working model or repair this one for me) I really like everything else about the rifle, notably the trigger, but I'm worried the trigger would feel different after being fixed.

FWIW, I fired about 50 rounds through it no problem before this issue set in.

 

[MaterDei]

I've not heard of this problem before. Would it fire a chambered round as soon as you close the bolt?

 

[AmishFury]

new trigger sear or cocking piece is needed if you have another mosin test your m44s bolt in the other mosin and the other mosin's bolt in your m44

 

[TargetTerror]

No, it would not fire a round at all. I didn't check whether it left a dent on the primer.

AmishFury (nice name btw) can I assume that changing either of those pieces would alter the trigger pull/feel? Ie, if the trigger pull is why I would consider having the gun repaired, will it likely change to an unknown by virtue of the repair?

 

[SGW42]

After you shot it, did you pull the receiver/barrel out of the stock?

I think you're missing the small pin that the trigger pivots on. Can you move the trigger up and down as well as forward and back?

Last time I cleaned my Mosin, I pulled it apart. Before I put it back together I noticed the trigger was really lose. I look down and see the small black pin on the ground. It slides in and out very easily.

 

[GD]

I'm with SGW42 - it sounds like the trigger pin fell out. I had lost one after cleaning a mosin. I used a nail to build a new trigger pin. Works great.

 

[TargetTerror]

I took her back to my gunshop today, and the guy that sold it to me took it a part a bit to see what was going on. Everything that was in the parts diagram was in the rifle as it was supposed to be. Neither of us know what was up with that rifle.

But, I traded her for a nice laminated 91/30. That rifle kept everything in the black at 200 yards no problem.

 

[dstorm1911]

ya need a new sear spring (provided there isn't gunk or debri under the one thats in it now which is causing it to not go high enough to engage the cocking piece)

if ya pull the action out of the stock turn it upside down, note the big slot headed screw.... the piece which that screw is holding down is the sear spring it also acts as the sear, if that screw is loose it will not put enough tension on it to fully engage the cocking piece either, many wanna be smiths will file it down trying to get a super light trigger this only works reliably if ya have a bolt body which fits very snug in the receiver otherwise the bolt has too much vertical play resulting in the problem ya are now having, if the gun was sold/returned someone may have reworked it.....

to remove ya will needa remove that screw (its usually very snug use a properly sized screw driver bit or ya will trash it) then push out the trigger pin now rotate the springs sear end out of the trigger hoop,

there are several sources for new ones as they are not at all rare or hard to find usually run about $4 or so online.......

And yes it will change the feel of the trigger as it will restore it to original configuration...... the contact surfaces can be lightly polished but unless ya have as mentioned a very snug bolt body/receiver fit ya will not be able to safly shorten the travel by modifying original components, after market replacment triggers are available

 

[rangerruck]

these triggers are so easy to manipulate, you can bend the bar that is part of the sear, to make it stick up a bit higher. You can also put a washer or two, under the trigger/sear parts, slip them around the bolt first, then put the other parts back on. this will shorten and lighten the trigger pull considerably.