Mossberg ATR100 Rifle Review

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Reply to Rangerruck

"Allright harry, if you got a bran'new rifle for 150 dollars, the store made about a 100 dollar mistake, or they are blowing them out. Please tell us, where o where this store is?"

Rangerruck...no mistake here and it was also not a blow-out sale. I have a connection...that is the only reason I got this rifle for the price I paid. (Hint: Pawn shops are the place to go...make friends with the owner.) I am just glad to know they are such good rifles. Can anyone give me some information on some affordable and good quality scopes? I also need to know what kind of rings I will need to mount the scope with. I am a rookie at this stuff. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Harry
 
Mossberg owner

I've had a Mossberg ATR-100 in .30-06 for over a year now and I have no complaints. I've never changed the scope, and with factory Remington core-lokt ammo, and the scope that came on it, I can usually do about 4" groups at 100 yards, but I'm a pretty crappy shot with a scope. (it's been awhile since I've punched any holes in paper (I really don't remember)... I usually just set a water bottle up at roughly 100 yards and shoot at it)
I'm thinking about buying a leupold, but I'm thinking I'm gonna buy a handgun first. Anyways, my friend has a ATR-100 with a heavy barrel and a trigger job, and it is a freakin' tack driver. In my opinion, the ATR-100 is the best rifle for the money on the market. Even with the heavy barrel, trigger job, and nice scope, I'm almost certain that his Mossberg is still cheaper than a Model 700.
Perhaps a 700 has a better fit and finish, but the bullet doesn't care what the rifle looks like.
 
My pop's got one in .270. They have them in 2 WSSM calibers now. His is the camo-finish one. For $250, what's not to love?! It shoots great, the finishing/machining are pretty good, the bolt throw is smooth, and she shoots straight! Get it!!
 
Barrels are probable not a problem, depending on thread (they may even use Savage barrels). Stocks, on the other hand, probably not so easy if at all possible without going custom.

Ash
 
Just bought a 100-ATR in .243 Winchester. Paid $309 with the scope and rings installed. After sighting it in I was able to shoot a 3 shot 1" group. I was shooting cheap Federal Power-Shok ammo at $12.99 a box. The scope is a 3-9x40mm and appears to be made by Simmons. My twelve year old son shot a 3 inch group at 100 yards. It was his first time shooting a deer rifle and he was really impressed by the lack of recoil.
 
jackv said:
...The scope is a 3-9x40mm and appears to be made by Simmons...
I did some research a while back when I got my .270 ATR, the scope is a Tasco World Class, model # DWC39X40M

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tropical Z,
The 100ATR is only in 06 or 270, but the 4X4 uses the same action and gets good reviews as well and it comes in many more calibers (I don't remember if .308 is one, but 7mm mag was:) )
 
scythefwd and john917v,

I can't say that it was the case back in 05' when tropical Z posted his question (as I wasn't looking into Mossberg rifles back then), but as of January 2008, the ATR is indeed, available in .308 Winchester.

Specifically, the ATR is available in two short-action and two long-action cartridges:
.243 Win, .308 Win, .270 Win, and 30-06 Springfield.

Mossy's newer line, the 4X4, is currently available in six long-action calibers:
25-06, .270 Win, 30-06 Sprg, 7mm Rem Mag, 300 Win Mag, and 338 Win Mag.

The 4X4 does not offer a short-action cartridge at present.

john317v, I am curious as to where you found that Mossberg is now offering wssm cartridges in their centerfire rifles? Their website currently only lists the above mentioned calibers for both the ATR & 4X4, offered in a wide variety of stocks, and barrel options of matte-blued or Marinecoat (Mossy's patented version of Stainless Steel.
 
Mossberg has also come out with a new trigger, they call it their LBA.

Here's a link to the Guns & Ammo article:

http://www.gunsandammomag.com/cs/Sa...berg+new+lightning+Bolt+Action+Trigger+System
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It also looks like they got rid of the "Skeletonized" butt stock on the synthetic stocked 4x4...

This article mentions it available in, at least, a .308....

http://www.tactical-life.com/online...bolt-action-rifle-road-blocker/?right=related

I'm hoping the triggers retro-fit the older guns, but, somehow I doubt it...

They'd rather sell a whole gun than just a trigger...
 
Hope I didn't put the cart ahead of the horse!

Oh great! One day after ordering a brand new 4X4 .270, you find info on an improved, adjustable trigger.

I've been contemplating on a new rifle for my son (15, about 100 lbs) for a couple of months now, for Mule & Whitetail deer and eventually shorter range elk.

I narrowed my caliber choices to either a short-action .308 or the long-action .270; I already own an A-bolt in .270 Win and would shoot it at literally anything in North America inside 300 yds. It is an incredibly accurate gun, with a scientist-like friend of mine who reloaded some rounds for me that produced three-shot groups that cover a dime (more/less same hole accuracy).

My budget wouldn't support another Browning, and I definitely wanted a rifle under 7 lbs with a detachable magazine, so I was considering the following models:

Remington 770 Sporter
Savage 10/110 GCNS or 16/116 FCSS
Tikka T3
Mossberg 4X4

I quickly ruled out the Remington for two simple reasons:
1. I actually discovered more Negative feedback from current owners than positive, despite the VERY attractive price (around $350-$380).
2. I could only find the 770 pre-equipped with a scope. Over the years, I've found it better to actually spend less on the gun, and MORE on the optics in achieving premium accuracy. To each his own on that one.

I heard almost nothing but very high regards for both the Savage and Tikka, with their prices in the $500-$550 range, depending on stock, barrel, etc. I was actually leaning towards the Tikka until I started reading more about the Mossberg 4X4 & ATR 100 and the independent reviews given by their owners. With mostly all good reports, and a price of $100 to $150 less than the Savage & Tikka, I began the arduous task of finding the specific model I wanted.

For 2008, Mossberg introduced a 4X4 "synthetic laminate" model (#265** series) in the blued-matte barrel with the skeletal stock and it really looks sharp in the picture. Like all the other 4X4's, it came in the six long-action calibers. I contacted several sporting goods stores in Washington State and beyond, including several online sites (Able Ammo, Bud's, etc) and none of them had even heard of this product line. After four different conversations with the folks at Mossberg corporate, I finally determined that they produced very few of this model in 08', scattering them abroad very modestly. I did get my hands on one of the distributors that they had shipped to and was able to find one in the .270 I desired (26502). After connecting the distributor with my FFL dealer, my new rifle.....er, my SON'S new rifle will be here w/in two weeks, well in time for a great surprise Christmas present.

The one occasional negative I did hear on the 4X4 was in inconsistency in the trigger pull. I felt that for $400, I could spend another $30-$50 to have a gunsmith fine tune it for me, should the need arise. I wonder if the new edition Lightning Bolt adjustable trigger would have been worth the wait? Time and practice at the range will tell.

I'm new at posting pics on message threads, but if it works, here's a pic of the model we ordered.

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Where did you find/hear that Mossberg is going away from the "skeletal" style stocks in the 4X4 next year?
 
thanks for your honest appraisal; I am looking to get an affordable 'medium' rifle for toting in the woods; right now I have a Savage 111G in .25-06 w/ a Simmons Master Series Pro Hunter 6-21 x 44 scope that was to be a 'varmint' gun, but has done duty for deer since the guys in the group can't get together to blast varmints (the higher mag of the scope proves to be a bit challenging for aiming closer than 75 yards); I also have a Remington 700 SPS in .300 wsm w/ muzzle brake &Nikon Buckmasters 4.5-14 x 42 with BDC reticle that was intended for 'bigger aspirations later in life' (the overall length with the muzzle brake is a bit inhibitive in close quarters)
 
I just bought a Mossberg .270 100 ATR it has a factory mounted Mossberg 3-9X scope on it. I have been looking for information about the scope but I can’t find anything. My question is “should I get a new scope?” my initial reaction to the scope was: “typical eye relief, typical low light performance” I have an eye for optics in general but I haven’t seen enough rifle scopes to be able to compare to this one. So I don’t know how much I would be paying to improve upon it. Does anyone know anything about Mossberg optics? Are they made BY Mossberg or FOR Mossberg?
 
I had a 100 atr that went from shooting 1 moa to 5 moa and i think it was my fault and the ammo I am used to excellent triggers darn my spoiled self!!!! Needless to say i lost confidence in how I was shooting the gun and got rid of it instead of worrying about injuring a deer and not taking it humanely. bad mistake got rid of a good rifle.
 
Yes, the 100 ATR's stock is completely plastic. I owned one that I purchased in October in 30-06. It was my first bolt action rifle. With Factory ammo I was able to get about 1.5" groups after sighting in the scope. I reloaded for it and was able to get 1 MOA to .9" five shot groups. This was from a simple load. I did not get too far into it however. My brother came back from texas and needed a cheap rifle. I offered my ATR to him.

I now have a Remington 700 SPS Tactical in .308 :evil:
 
I love the mossies, a very underrated rifle. my friend freefloated his, and did some handloads, and gets moa groups all the time.
 
I'm going to have to look at the Mossberg Rifles. I heard at one time they were made by Howa who makes the Wby Vanguards & made the S&W 1500s.

The OP mentioned 130gr Fusion .270 ammo made by Federal. The other day My brother & I were going to sight in some new rifles for a customer of his. The guy provided us with some of the fusion in .270 & .243. The .270 was $52 bucks for 20 rounds. I told my bro to pick up some cheap monarch ammo to make sure the rifles was close before using the Fusion. Only shot 2 3-hot groups @2.60 a round. Only $15.60 for 6 shots.
 
Originally Posted by Smitty in CT : Tasco World Class model # DWC39X40N
Thanks for the reply Smitty in CT . Yeah I should have guessed it was tasco. I looked up some reviews on this scope and there were some bad ones. some stuff about being too dark, but the most disturbing ones were about the scope losing its zero two days later. have you hear of anything like that happening with these?
 
I have a 100 ATR in .270 that came with the factory scope.

I didn't have a problem with it loosing zero but it took about two boxes of ammo to "settle in", I agree with the comments about it being dark, I have since upgraded to a Nikon Monach 3-9 x 40 that someone traded in at my local shop, I paid $140 for it....
 
Nikon scope

For my new Mossberg 100 ATR 30-06, which i just purchased at wally world for $249.00, i Just purchased a Nikon Prostaff on ebay for $92.00, its a 3x9x40. i would suggest checking out this site. i think i saved at least $70.00 with tax for a well known optical company. anyone have any reveiws on this scope and a Harris Bi-Pod will be appreciated..I'M a newbie to site, thx for all the great post/
g-N-T
 
Where was this thread hiding??

Wow, where was this thread when I was asking around about the Mossy 100ATR in 30'06 a few months ago? All I got was a reference to a specious tale of bolts breaking and flying backwards at the shooter, and other snarky comments about what a cheap design it is, supposedly proven to be poor in its earlier presentation as the 'Raptor' made by someone else.

After that I was sheepish about admitting I had already bought one when I started asking around: my one impulse buy (so far!:eek:) as a firearm owner. Just seemed too good to pass up for $247 at WalMart with bases installed at the factory. Picked up a Centrepoint 3-9x30 (they come with SWEET rings btw) for $50 and got a real nice shooter for a steal.

Now I read that many consider it the best deal in it's class. I may have to start impulse-buying rifles a lot more often!

My one observation after sighting it in (with 'nothin fancy' ammo, Federal blue box 150gr, possibly 185) is that for windage it was spot on. Less than 1/4" at 50yds, so that's why I saw 'for windage' (I would imagine an elevation adjustment would be in order from over 100yds).

Also, the recoil is tremendous in 30'06, I'm guessing because the synthetic stock makes for a very light weight overall. I don't know what the other 100ATR 30'06 owners feel about theirs or if they have recoil pads, but the the thin factory one must be made just to keep the edges from causing injury. By way of explanation, I'm a big guy, with big shoulders and chest, and this thing tagged me harder than many of the blackbelts I workout with. It got a buddy of mine over the eye with the scope and he's no stranger to large weapons. Hold it tight to the pectral (NOT the shoulder) and it may not hurt much, but needless to say I'll be shopping for a Limbsaver (anyone know what size the ATR takes?) before I go out again. Seriously, damn! :cool:

Thrilled with the accuracy for the money, though, and once I cut down on the kick I'm thinking it will be a lifelong favorite. Having found one in 30'06 also addes justification for my desire for a Garand. Trying to keep the calibers in check... Might be making my first deer hunt this fall, I know this thing could take some game!
 
just won a Harris bipod on ebay for $66.00, now after reading Col Plink, i may looking for a quality recoil pad..cant wait to get it to the range and zero it out, and hopefully hunt in the future..stay tuned.
 
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