Most accurate/reliable rifle?

[Mayo]

A few stipulations first:

semi auto
.223 or higher
out of the box


I'm always reading or hearing about how this rifle is THE most accurate and this rifle is THE most reliable. That said, these 2 rifles NEVER are the same. Thus, the answer must be somewhere in between. So I'd like to hear your opinions on the following:

1. Most reliable
2. Most accurate
3. Since 1 & 2 are different, the rifle that comes the closest to combining these 2 qualities is..................?

 

[oldFred]

Mosin Nagant M91/30 without a doubt!

.30 caliber (7.62x54R)

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Hard to say, but some of these would probably be in the running:

http://www.pof-usa.com/contact/contact.htm

"National Match" accurized M14 type.

 

[tacweapon]

Most accurate/reliable rifle?

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A few stipulations first:

semi auto
.223 or higher
out of the box


I'm always reading or hearing about how this rifle is THE most accurate and this rifle is THE most reliable. That said, these 2 rifles NEVER are the same. Thus, the answer must be somewhere in between. So I'd like to hear your opinions on the following:

1. Most reliable
2. Most accurate
3. Since 1 & 2 are different, the rifle that comes the closest to combining these 2 qualities is..................?

I would help if you could provide a price range or what is exceptable accuracy, but based on what you have said so far my recommendation is going to be a Robinson Arms XCR I might be a little biased since I own one but it is the most reliable rifle that I own and even I am capable of atleast 1.75 moa and I know of other people capable of 1 moa with it

 

[dscottw88]

I've put thousands of rounds through a couple of my AR15's and never had a jam. Then again, I've never had one with my .223 Saiga either. But the AR15 is king when it comes to accuracy. You want reliability and accuracy, you might consider the XCR mentioned above. Or get in line and wait around for Bushmaster's ACR.

 

[Mayo]

Remember----there should be 3 seperate answers.


No price restrictions.

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

Most reliable: AK, Galil, XCR, or Daewoo.

Most accurate: HK PSG-1, Knights SR-25, Springfield White Feather M21 type M1A, top end custom AR15, hmmmm

 

[dat2]

Rem Model 700, reliable and accurate, I think it fits both

 

[tacweapon]

Rem Model 700, reliable and accurate, I think it fits both

but it does not fit the semi-auto requirement

 

[Mayo]

Most reliable: AK, Galil, XCR, or Daewoo.

Most accurate: HK PSG-1, Knights SR-25, Springfield White Feather M21 type M1A, top end custom AR15, hmmmm

That's 2 out of 3---no cheating.

 

[nissantech]

went and shoot my ptr-91 and it is the most accurate battle rifle I have. behind that is my saiga 308. behind that is my bulgarian ak-47, milled receaver.

 

[ArmedBear]

No price limit?

Well, then, there is a whole list of imaginary rifles that would fit the criteria.

Of what I own?

1. Mini-14
2. AR-15 20" HB
3. The AR, freshly cleaned, with plenty of Militec in it.

 

[dat2]

but it does not fit the semi-auto requirement

True, I need to read a little better next time I jump up and write sumthin'

 

[JImbothefiveth]

Mosin Nagant M91/30 without a doubt!

That's not a semi-auto. Besides, it's accuracy is probably poor compared to a modern bolt action.

 

[Pulse]

1. Most reliable?
AK and there clones

2. Most accurate?
Walther WA2000 and other dedicated precision rifles

3. the rifle that comes the closest to combining these 2 qualities?

SIG550 and the new SIG 750

 

[KBintheSLC]

1) AK variant
2) AR variant (accurized/match/target grade)
3) M1A makes for a happy medium between reliability and long range accuracy. I also like the piston design of the Sig 556. It is heavier than an AR, but it is at least as accurate and significantly more reliable for dirty/heavy use.

 

[ds92]

that is the $1 million question my friend.
Now we get to hear what guns everybody has

 

[rangerruck]

I'll go ahead and combine all 3; for most reliable, most accurate, and semiauto, I would do a saiga all day, in 223 or 308. 762x39 is pretty accurate, and I recently did a cold test with mine, using 124 grain hollow points, at 50 yards, using front sand bags only. pulled off a 5 shot 1 inch group, at 50 like that, with a cold bbl.
but the 223 and 308 are capable of that same group at 100 yds, and I have done it multiple times. now then, both my rifles have been chemically treated, and though I will stipulate that it may have made mine more accurate than out of the box, I would not bet my life on it. Plus I have pulled of the above results, while having 2 diff sets of Saigas, a few years apart, so I will confidently , and with experience say, that saigas are pretty accurate.
Now then, are they as accurate as a well made ar, or piston drive like Patriot? Nope. but if you put unlimited mags on my table, and then mags in front of those others, and we just start firing, the others will fail first, no doubt, especially if we say, oh yeah, survival type mode; no rest, no lube, zombie hordes are coming down your street.

 

[deerhunter61]

I do not believe you outlined much in the way or the type of rifle you are talking about...

So my response is from my perspective which is hunting rifles. I own 2 Browning BBRs and both are the most accurate rifles I have ever owned and they shoot great. One is a 270 and the other is a 7mm Mag. They both can shoot 1/2 groups with little to no problem. Especially if the shooter is good!

 

[gvnwst]

I would vote for a .308 POF AR-10, accurate as heck, and super reliable.

 

[Zak Smith]

The AR-15 dominates in "action" shooting such as 3-Gun where reliability failures mean lost stages and accuracy counts.

 

[H2O MAN]

Your stipulation for a semi auto rifle to deliver both maximum accuracy and reliability right "out of the box" is a tall order.

The modern AR-15 standard rifle should exibit better consistency right of each and every
box and it should not require any tweaks or mods to meet your stipulations as stated.


That said, tweaks and mods are inevitable with me so my personal choice in an M14 that's been modernized by SEI.
I back my SEI built M14s up with an AKM that I modernized myself and I don't own an AR

 

[Quiet]

SIG 510 AMT

 

[Hostile Amish]

Sig 550

 

[Matrix187]

HK G3/FN FAL/m14