Most Gun Friendly State?

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I have to go with FL. When it comes to gun rigts FL often lays the groundwork for most other states. For example, FL is the home of the "stand your ground" law and has just recently passed a bill to insure people retain their rights to CCW during a 'state of emergency' situation. FL also just passed a bill to allow CCW in state and national parks. In addition, FL doesn't have any firearm purchase limits, FL allows long gun purchases from contiguous states, has the best reciprication of any CCW state, allows class 3 weapons and it's CCWs are shall issue.
 
IIRC, Alaska is the most gun friendly with Vermont coming in a close second. Vermont is located fairly close to where you live now.

Alaska is, IMO, the best place to live in on earth. But I'm a little biased, and I've never been outside of North America.
 
any of the mountain states are pretty gun friendly.

WA, OR, AZ, NV, NM arent too shabby either gun wise. The Mid west is hit or miss as far as CCW and open carry goes. The South is generally decent.
 
Another vote for AZ. No registration, licensing, waiting period,(15 min for the Brady check.), shall issue CCW permit, ( 8 hour class, $65, good for 5 years, no class to renew), open carry, car carry, castle doctrine, mandatory storage laws for public buildings/events, (getting better by 2008, they have to make it convienent for gunowners), NFA legal, CCW permit is NOT weapon specific,( so carry your pistol, battle axe, and legal NFA all concealed at the same time, if you wish.), no AWB, no ammo ban, no magazine limit, no purchase frequency restriction, (ie one-a-month), firearms education optional for public schools, (range time MANDATORY to pass), public ranges go up every year, (Ben Avery shooting range named one of the "jewels of the state" by our Democratic governor), pardon me, *BREATHE*, state pre-emption law, (kinda weak, but not too bad, no Morton Groves here!),and AZ now recognizes ALL other CCW permits from any state.....
I am not sure, but I probably missed a few positive things.:cool:
 
From MA, the most logical hop-skip-and-jump is VT. And the people there won't even think you talk funny!

And after you live there for ten years or so the local will figure you aren't going to leave so they may as well talk to you. :neener:

No, seriously, VT, NH and ME are probably the best New England choices.
 
Pa is very gun friendly.

Allegheny County has one unheralded distinction: We’re hidden handgun heaven.

http://www.pittsburghcitypaper.ws/sc...t.cfm?ref=4897

Number One With a Bullet

We may no longer be the most livable city, but Pittsburghers still have one more top national ranking to make their chests puff with pride: Allegheny County may issue more concealed carry gun permits than anywhere else in the country.

According to the Allegheny County Sheriff’s office, there are 47,278 active concealed carry permits, with another 2,000 or so in the process of being renewed. These permits allow citizens to carry concealed handguns anywhere, apart from schools, courthouses and other restricted places, without having to show any particular need or reason. A study by City Paper of the 26 states that collect and release county-based data found that Allegheny County’s active permits top the nation in sheer numbers and place us third per capita, with 3.75 percent of our 1.3 million residents packing.

Westmoreland County, meanwhile, tops the nation in per-capita carry permits with a staggering 10.2 percent (or 37,417) of its 368,224 residents granted permits.

“It’s pretty troublesome that one in 25 Allegheny County residents have the right to carry a concealed weapon,” says Chad Ramsey, field director for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. “I don’t care how careful anyone is, having that many guns on the streets when you have no discretion to deny the permits or any power to require training is asking for trouble.”

When Henry Hoffman decides to carry a concealed gun, he says, chances are you’d never know it. With his legal Pennsylvania concealed carry permit he’s free to pack heat anytime he wants. And that’s part of his point.

“I don’t carry all the time, but there are times when I have to carry a large amount of money on me,” says the first vice president of the Allegheny County Sportsmen’s League and the caretaker of the Monroeville-Pitcairn Sportsmen’s Club. “To be honest, there are also certain areas I wouldn’t walk in without a gun. Certain areas are known to be pretty nasty.”

The record number of residents packing doesn’t surprise Hoffman. He says Allegheny County residents take their right to bear arms seriously. And as the large number of firearm safety classes offered in the county shows, he says, county residents are responsible gun owners who have earned the right to carry.

The intent and the effect of concealed weaponry is to force criminals to play Russian roulette, says Edward Leddy, former editor of the Second Amendment Foundation’s Journal on Firearms and Public Policy. “A study that I conducted showed that one out of every 20 people eligible for a permit actually takes one out,” he says. “Criminals are thus left to decide if they really want to figure out which one has the gun.”

That, or they’re encouraged to pack something, just in case.

People also get permits to avoid hassles over other gun regulations, Leddy says. While target-shooting enthusiasts, for instance, don’t need a permit to transport a gun, a permit saves problems if they’re stopped in their vehicles.

But the biggest reason people carry, Leddy says, is personal protection. One in five who pack are women, he says.

“The most effective tool a woman can have to avoid being raped is a handgun,” Leddy says. “They can talk all they want about karate, mace, a knife and a big bunch of keys, but if you have that gun, you will stop that attack before it starts, without a doubt.”

But B.J. Horn, executive director of Pittsburgh Action Against Rape, says Leddy’s assessment is a simplistic solution to a complex problem. Seventy-five percent of all rape victims know their attackers; half of all victims are younger than 18 and a quarter are younger than 12. The idea that a handgun would prevent those rapes, says Horn, furthers the myth that most rapes are perpetrated by strangers.

“The bottom line,” she says, “is if you carry a deadly weapon, especially one that you’re not prepared to use, then it can be used against you.”

The Rosenberg Institute’s Glosser says he has long been familiar with the gun advocate’s argument that more guns mean less crime. They use “funny science” to find numbers to fit their needs, he says. He points to other countries, particularly in Western Europe, in which gun ownership is severely restricted and handgun deaths are “exponentially lower.

“The state removed most urban areas’ rights to control guns, subjecting urban areas to the same laws as rural and suburban areas,” he says. “It’s clear that we need to have local authority over who can and can’t carry.”

Allegheny County’s main competitors for top gun-toting county are places you’d expect to put up a fight: red states and murder capitals.

Lake County, Indiana, for instance, the home of Gary, is second per capita at 4.2 percent. Cause or effect, it’s probably related to Gary’s per-capita murder rate, which hit a nationwide high in 1993 of 89 murders per 100,000 residents and still sits at 57.7 murders per 100,000 people.

Counties that issue the bulk of permits are concentrated in six states: Florida, Michigan, Texas, Utah, Arizona and Indiana. Most of the top 25 permit-issuing counties are in typically conservative states in the South, West and Midwest.

The exceptions are Pennsylvania, Michigan and Vermont. Vermont has no concealed-carry restrictions and allows all residents to carry without a permit.

In Michigan, the largest number of permits, according to a spokeswoman for the Michigan State Police, are in the three counties that encompass the Detroit metro area, which had nearly 400 homicides and more than 800 shootings in 2004, according to the Detroit News.

Part of the reason Pennsylvania and these other states top the packing list is because we are among the 35 whose statutes dictate the state “shall issue” a permit unless the applicant is a convicted of certain crimes, including second-degree felonies and multiple DUIs.

Ten states -- New York, New Jersey, Alabama, California, Delaware, Iowa, Maryland, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Hawaii -- allow restricted permit issuance. That includes four of the six states that border Pennsylvania. Their laws say such permits “may” be issued at the discretion of local law enforcement. Four states -- Kansas, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Illinois – do not issue concealed-carry permits.

“The two main problems we have with the law” in Pennsylvania, says the Brady Campaign’s Ramsey, “is that there is no requirement to take a gun safety course and that law enforcement has no discretion when handing these things out. If the person is a domestic abuser, or just a little off, but never convicted, he can’t be denied a permit. That’s a little scary.”

Even in Alabama, some aspects of Pennsylvania’s permissive permitting don’t sit well. Pat Roberts, Alabama’s deputy attorney general, has been working on reciprocity agreements between Alabama and other concealed-carry states, like Pennsylvania. “Here,” Roberts says, “the chief or the sheriff likely knows the person he’s giving a permit to and he can deny the permit even if he has the feeling that the guy might just be a little off.”

Ramsey says there is a growing gun culture in Pennsylvania, pointing to the large number of guns in the state -- more than 500,000 handguns purchased in the past five years, according to data from the Pennsylvania State Police. He also cites the claim of the Pittsburgh-based Rosenberg Institute for Peace and Justice, which led local protests against the National Rifle Association convention in Pittsburgh last spring, that Pennsylvania has been second in the number of gun shows only to Texas.

What worries Rosenberg’s Nathaniel Glosser is the number of legal guns he assumes are being carried without permits. “The residents of this county would be better off,” he says, “if we had officials who were more interested in advancing gun control in this county.”

Local law enforcement can’t explain the top rankings of Western Pennsylvania counties.

Allegheny County Sheriff Pete DeFazio didn’t return calls seeking comment.

Westmoreland County Sheriff Chris Scherer knew his county had the highest permits per capita in the state, but the national prominence surprised him a bit. Part of the reason for the large number of permits may be the high number of sportsmen and responsible gun owners, he speculates.

“We do have a lot of permits,” says Scherer, “but we haven’t seen any problems because of it. In fact, we haven’t had a homicide this year and I’ve never known for firearms-related crimes to involve a permitted gun.”

Violent crime rates nationwide in 2004 dropped 1.7 percent overall, and 2.1 percent in metropolitan counties. Violent crimes in Allegheny County decreased about 1 percent in 2003, but homicides saw a 36 percent increase.

Barry McCarthy, a criminal law professor with the University of Pittsburgh, says the city in particular was overrun with gang violence in the early 1990s and a large number of people rushed in those years to get a permit to carry a concealed handgun.

“I wasn’t aware that we were developing that hysterical climate again, although some of it ... may have returned in the past year or so,” McCarthy says. “The number [of permits] compared to the rest of the state seems disproportionate. I don’t know why it’s so high.”

Some rushes on gun-carrying permits may be correlated with a rise in violent crime. For example, in 2003, Allegheny County processed a six-year high 11,326 permits, according to state police, who collect each county’s data. That year also saw the county hit a record number of murders with 125.

But not all spikes may be motivated by fear. Scherer says permits in Westmoreland County spiked in 2003 because it was the end of their five-year permitting cycle and many active permits had to be renewed.

Meanwhile, Allegheny County, only the 28th most populous in America, may remain number one in concealed-carry permits for some time.

“I know there’s a name put to a person who decides to carry a firearm for personal protection,” says Allegheny County Sportsmen’s Henry Hoffman. That name would be gun nut. “But in the end? I really don’t care.

“There are a lot of young people out there with no regard for their own life and absolutely no regard for yours,” he says. “They’ve got illegal firearms and they don’t care who they hurt. You have to take care of yourself.”
 
Pretty pleased with VA.

When I ride the motorbike, I often open-carry.

Sure wish they would lift the ban on concealed carry, however, in locations that serve alcohol. Interestingly, one can open-carry legally in such establishments.
 
Actually, Oregon and Washington are pretty good. We can use all the pro-2A people we can get too, to help keep the pacific northwest the way it is.
 
Arkansas. I know, "but what about that certain former president?" Amazing how many people I know who now refuse to admit that they actually voted for him. Overall, this is still a conservative & gun-friendly state, especially the NW, which is exploding in both population and economy. No waiting period, no purchase limit, easy to get CCW, can carry any legal handgun with your CCW. Only restriction on handgun type is that if you qualify w/a revolver you can only carry a revolver. Can carry in restaurants that serve alcohol, but not bars. Working on a "castle doctrine" law like Fla's. Not sure about the rest of the state but central AR has 2 large gun clubs set up for IDPA, an indoor handgun range, and a Game & Fish Comm operated outdoor pistol/rifle/skeet/trap range with great facilities for cheap ($2 per person for rifle or pistol all day, $3 per round skeet/trap). Still a lot of public land too, especially in the west.

BTW, those of you in states w/open carry, I've always been curious about that. How often do you carry openly, or see others doing so? Wish we had that here.
 
I went to the Brady campaign web site :barf: (see what I do for you all?) and got a list of all of their D- and F states (figuring what they think is bad we would think was good). The 12 BEST states are as follows (remember, an F is very good stands for FINE).

NM F
TX D-
LA F
MS F
AL F
KY F
OH D-
OK D-
WY F
MT F
ID F
UT D-
 
Hey Hoppy

I believe that remmington made the .25 pump in the the 30-50s at the same time as they made the .35 pump. Havent seen the .380 or 9mm in rifle yet. And while we are on gun laws i live in michigan you cant buy a new pistol unless you are 21+ but can buy a used one when you are 18. Figure that one out.
 
I was told in Louisiana if your 18 you can legally own and carry a pistol as long as you didn’t buy it. I know someone who was 19 and caught speeding in a school zone. When the cops stopped him and say his glock 19 and a mossy 590, they took both. They went to court and all the blah blah blah, ATF experts were that and last weekend we feed his G19 close to 500 rounds. Adult bought him the gun and did a handwritten transfer. After I talked to the AFT guy and he told me "On the handwritten transfer you can say you sold the gun for anything, but being he was under 21 alcohol probably wouldn’t be a good idea." He once saw a handwritten transfer for half a bag of stale cheezy-puffs.

Luckily I’m 21 & don’t have to bother with this crap.
 
Wow...not one person even mentioned IN. And IN got a D- on the Brady list. Sure to be an F now that we have Lifetime Concealed Handgun License.:D Plenty of affordable land here and guns are seen as American as apple pie here by the locals. People here vote candidates in based on their stance with 2nd Amend.
 
PRNJ

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH why do i have to live in New Jersey

if you think about it, PRNJ is the most friendly gun state...
those nice rifles stay looking brand spankin' new in the gun cabinet 'cause with all the regulations you're rarely permitted to use them...:banghead:
 
People like Hoppy590 who do not know MA gun laws do a great disservice to MA residents and people who want to travel here. Check out www.goal.org for the correct infomation on MA gun laws.

care to be more specific?

dont even get me started on MA

No new "assault rifles" ( still have a state assault ban)
True
http://www.goal.org/misc/faq/2004reform.pdf
http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/140-131m.htm
No new "hi-caps"
i always lump this in with the assault ban, some say its differant but for MA it might aswell be the same

no ordering cool stuff from other states ( ammo, crossbows, almost anything)
Hazy gray area. i may, STRESS MAY, have been wrong on this.
http://www.goal.org/misc/faq/ammo.html
the MA gov. has fined out of state dealers for allegedly breaking our laws. so though there may not be any definitave law on the subject it is treat by the state as a violation because you need to be "dualy licensed" to sell ammo in MA
(http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/140-122b.htm) causeing vendors to avoid MA so they wont get caught up in it all. ( if you dont believe me look in a "cheaper than dirt" catalog, or any other catalog, all the cool stuff. ammo,crossbows, dummy guns. they all have a little "1"with a truck picture telling you to see the shipping details, and they say, cannon ship to MA)

you need to get an FID ( fire arms identification) card to handle a gun. need to be 18 to buy a non hicap/"assault" rifle/shotgun
true.
http://www.goal.org/misc/faq/structure.pdf

need an FID class d ( i think its class d) for mace.
sorry, its "restricted class" not class D, but still true
http://www.goal.org/misc/faq/structure.pdf

Need FID class c for long guns ( 70+$ course and then like 100$ fee fo the license)
true. again
http://www.goal.org/misc/faq/structure.pdf


need a LTC ( license to carry) to get a pistol.
Class B for "sporting" which is to and from hunts/range ONLY
Class A for conceiled carry ( issued at the discression of the town PD chief)
( more fees and classes for the LTC, though i took the LTC class for my FID , sneaky eh?)
True ( though fuzzy wording. that was how it was explained to me by a chief of police )
http://www.goal.org/misc/faq/aandbdifferences.pdf
gay laws that no "pistol" ammunition will be sold to anyone under 21. ( the mere idea that ther is such thing as "pistol" ammuntion is rediculous. almost ANY pistol caliber can be found in rifle/carbine form, MAYBE witht he exception of .380 and .25. though im sure im mistaken)
still looking for source on this last one, though im sure ive seen it before
 
Conn. is close by as well. Certain 'assault wapons' are still banned, but hi-cap mags are back. Concealed carry is pretty easy to obtain. When I got my fingerprints taken the local cop told me thought everyone should have one. Unless you have a common last name you can even buy a gun on sunday when the DPS is closed. Just stay away from Hartford or Groton as I've heard those two towns do everything in their power to delay the application even though it's "shall issue" and not "may isssue" in CT.
 
One vote for Ky reasons below.

1. State pre-emptive law. No city,county or municipial goverment can pass any gun laws.
2. Open carry legal without permit. CCDWL 12 bucks a year (5 years=60 bucks)
3. That permit is a Concealed Carry Deadly weapons Liscense by the way. Besides handguns we can carry swithblades, nunchucks, throwing stars and and the classic Any Other Deadly Weapon. The sawed off shotgun under the trench coat is legal here.
 
Id say vote for oregon/washington just stay out of the cities like corvallis eugene, maybe portland and your set here in the small towns guns=great in one restaurant in sisters the whole restaurant was filled with guns, they had a little tab with ( Than manu. the caliber The mag cap and if it was lever action or bolt)
And the Scenery here in the east willamate valley is beautiful plenty of forest and hills.
 
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