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Mystery rifle, can you help me identify it?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Clean97GTI, Sep 15, 2006.

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  1. Clean97GTI

    Clean97GTI Well-Known Member

    My grandfather gave it to me when he moved. Its a simple .22lr autoloader and feeds from a tube magazine. It has an old steel tube Weaver 4x power scope that I took off to take the pictures.
    I've got no idea who made it or if someone ghost-built it for someone else.
    at any rate, here are the pictures. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

    I have fired it a few times, and while the irons are so-so, its a tack driver with the scope on.
    An oddity is that when you fire, the bolt is held back until you release the trigger. Also, the cocking knob can be pushed in and used to either lock the bolt closed (it will fire like that) or open. Bolt does not hold open on the last shot.

    Ranger 101-16 is the only marking that might be identifying.
  2. USSR

    USSR Well-Known Member


    The Ranger name was used by Sears, Roebuck and Co. The rifle was made for them by Savage/Stevens Arms Corp. It is known as the model 87, 87A, 187, etc. I have a Springfield/J.Stevens Arms model 87A, and it is also a tack driver.

  3. Clean97GTI

    Clean97GTI Well-Known Member

    OK, found a little more information.

    Its got a patent number on it.
    Patent 2,094,577 issued to a N.L. Brewer in 1937.
    Savage arms is mentioned on the first page of text.

    Only thing that strikes me as off, is that the pictures depict a bolt action. The trigger assembly is similar.

    no mention of model number.
  4. Clean97GTI

    Clean97GTI Well-Known Member

    Thank you very much USSR. :cool: :cool:
  5. Man-O-War

    Man-O-War Well-Known Member

    Looks almost exactly like a Stevens Model 87D I used to have. The only difference is the cocking handle (and the markings). The cocking handle was much smaller on mine. I used if for a while then gave it to my dad. It was reliable and very accurate. He still uses it for a truck gun.

    It was hard to get used to the bolt staying back until you let go of the trigger. It would shoot long rifles in semi-auto. You could also use short, long, and long rifles when you pushed in the knob. That made it work like a bolt action.

    Hope this helps.

  6. Clean97GTI

    Clean97GTI Well-Known Member

    ah, now the lock on it makes more sense.
    Do you have to lock it forward to use long and short?
  7. Man-O-War

    Man-O-War Well-Known Member

    If my memory serves me correctly, yes you do have to push the knob in to shoot each round of long or short. You just operate it like a bolt action. Cycle it by hand to load one in the chamber, push the knob in to lock it, then shoot. Then pull out the knob, cycle the bolt to eject the empty brass and load a new round. It has been a while now but it seems like if you shot shorts without pushing the knob in, it would not cycle completely and the empty brass would hang up inside the action.

    BTW, I miss my old 87D. I'll get another one some day. It was a really good rifle.

    Hope this helps.

  8. Clean97GTI

    Clean97GTI Well-Known Member

    Its an immense help, thank you so much. :)
  9. joab

    joab Well-Known Member

    I don't know what the difference is, but other than the stock color it looks just like my Savage 6A.

    And yes the bolt has to be engaged each time you shoot with shorts.

    I have had mine since I was 18.
    I bought it in a pawn shop for $10 in '80 or 81.

    I shot a snake swimming upstream in the head with a downward 45% angle shot from the top of a bank, back then
    I could not even see the snake now
  10. rangerruck

    rangerruck Well-Known Member

    it is a Savage, they are easily id'd by the vent ribs on the left side of the receiver. They are supposed to fire s,l,lr's, I have bought 2 , in hopes they would. i would so love a semi auto firing a tube full of shorts! But they never do act , with being a jammo matic.
  11. Rube

    Rube Active Member

    I'm with Joab

    The action looks exactly like the Savage 6a I just purchased a couple of weeks ago. I've shot a couple hundred rounds through it without a single problem. As with Joab, my stock is a bit darker--actually I think it is walnut. I was very impressed with the accuracy with simply the iron sights.
  12. Clean97GTI

    Clean97GTI Well-Known Member

    I'll get a couple shots of the scope my grandfather had mounted to it.
    Some ancient steel tube Weaver. This rifle is easily more accurate than my 10/22.

    I got it when he moved 2 years ago and it hadn't been fired since he retired from LAPD in 1974.
  13. Kent

    Kent New Member

    Rifle worth keeping

    Hello All,
    This is my first post to this forum. I was doing a search for the Savage 6A and landed here. Yours is a close clone of it except for color. I was wondering how old these guns are. My dad bought the one I have for my older brother back in the mid to late 50's. My brother doesn't shoot or hunt, so I inherited it. My two boys grew up shooting bulk 22 rounds through it and I also shot it a lot back in the 60's.
    Mine says on the left side of the receiver "Long rifle only as automatic". It fires on and on without any jams using long rifle ammo. I gave it a good cleaning and gave it a deep Remington type blue. I grew up with those iron sights and it hits everything you shoot at. I took it to the rifle range over Labor Day and gave it another good workout. I only shoot jacketed rounds through it now after getting most of the lead out of the rifleing from years of my sons shooting bulk ammo through it. They cleaned it, but their definition of clean and mine is a bit different.
    Bottom line is, it's a tough rifle and still shoots well after 50 years. I'd be interested in how a scope was mounted to it. Did a gunsmith do the work on yours or did your grandpa say? I think mine is worthy of some work along those lines. I'd love to see a new Burris or Leupold scope atop that 6A, but only because my eye sight isn't what it used to be. :)
  14. Win70

    Win70 Member

    Used to have one years ago, definately a Savage/Stevens. Nice little gun........
  15. Userzero

    Userzero Member

    Hello everybody!

    This is my first post. I found this forum while trying to find an answer to my question.

    My dad had one like that and it was not used for maybe 30 years. He gave it to me a few years ago saying it did not work but that it was a nice rifle and that I should have it repaired some day. This morning, just for kicks, I gave it a good cleaning and oiling. Then I went and fired a couple hundred rounds with it this afternoon and I really had fun. Can't remember having that much fun shooting a rifle for a very long time. I didn't know I had such a good little rifle in my basement.

    The only thing is it misfired a few times. I messed with the aft screw cap or whatever it's called, and eventually it fired flawlessly. There is an indexer on that cap, and I think it has something to do with how hard the firing pin hits the rim, but I can't see why. I don't understand what it does exactly.

    Can anybody please explain what that adjustment does?

  16. joab

    joab Well-Known Member

    As far as I know that is some sort of variation of a breech plug.

    I never thought it had any other purpose than an easy way to take down the rifle for cleaning
  17. USSR

    USSR Well-Known Member

    aft screw cap?

    If you're talking about the threaded "cap" on the end of the receiver, removing this (by turning counter-clockwise) allows you to remove the spring and bolt. It would be a good idea to do this, spray the bolt and the inside of the receiver thoroughly with brake cleaner, then lightly oiling them and putting it back together.

  18. rustymaggot

    rustymaggot Well-Known Member

    i used to have one of those. i miss it. my buddy who got it loves it to no end.
  19. joab

    joab Well-Known Member

    USSR found the words that I could not.

    The failure to fires could have been ammo related
    Were you using Remington bulk Pack?
  20. AJAX22

    AJAX22 Well-Known Member

    Those are awesome, super reliable rifles that are absolutly awesome tackdrivers. I've got one, it rocks. I take it into the field more than any other .22 that I own.

    I've never had a fail to fire in mine, you might check the firing pin, to see if its worn or chipped,

    I've had a few jams while using .22 short ammo, the cases can get stuck if you don't lock the bolt closed when you are in battery.

    Don't sell it, you'll regret it if you do. I'm keeping mine forever.
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