Navy's New Defense Is Small But Mighty

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Norfolk Virginian-Pilot
May 11, 2006

Navy's New Defense Is Small But Mighty

By Louis Hansen, The Virginian-Pilot

VIRGINIA BEACH - Three small Navy patrol boats bounced over the wake of a destroyer Wednesday morning.

The trio of new boats hooked left, accelerated to 30 knots and cruised past the lumbering giant in the calm waters. Sailors on all the craft waved to one another.

These quick patrol boats soon will become best friends with the blue-water ships. Next week, the Navy will establish its first coastal warfare squadron on the East Coast.

Based at Little Creek Naval Amphibious Base, the 300-sailor unit will be charged with protecting ships entering harbors and ports and guarding key installations from terrorist attacks.

The force also boasts a range of mobile security and communications systems. It can follow behind a hurricane or other natural disaster, deploy and set up within a few days and become a free-standing command and control center for military or civilian personnel.

The bombing of the Norfolk-based destroyer Cole in 2000 and the 2004 suicide attack against sailors in the Persian Gulf stand as vivid examples of the danger posed by small enemy craft.

Coastal patrols from other commands are operating in the Persian Gulf and have been running on high deployment schedules.

"The need was apparent," said Cmdr. James Campbell, commanding officer of Navy Coastal Warfare Squadron 4 .

The coastal warfare squadron draws together a variety of Navy responsibilities into a tight package and allows combat commanders to pick the units they need - for example, base protection or additional harbor patrol - to supplement combat troops.

The key is to deploy quickly to missions that could include base security in Kuwait or domestic disaster relief.

Campbell said the teeth of the new force are the small, fast boats.

The 34-foot, twin-engine cruisers can do 35 knots in calm seas. The craft are armed with three automatic rifles and a grenade launcher - enough firepower to drive away enemies or signal neutral crafts to pull over for inspection. The squadron will receive 18 new boats.

Campbell said the unit has been popular with sailors because of its small size and combat mission. Personnel and equipment are added weekly.

Lt. j.g. Adam Arbogast , 28, left the surface fleet about eight months ago to lead a small boat unit. It's been rewarding, he said.

"I came here for something different," he said. "It's an opportunity for everyone to get out of their comfort zone."

Petty Officer 3rd Class David Walsh, 24, a gunner's mate, aims to try out for the special warfare community next year.

First, though, he said, "I want to get combat experience."

On Wednesday afternoon at Fort Story, sailors ran through force protection and anti-terrorism drills at their base camp.

About a dozen sailors guarded the base against suicide bombers and domestic disputes brought to their gates. The unit played through several different scenarios throughout the day.

Lt. Matthew Cook, training officer for the unit, said the drills are designed to mimic the high stress of the battlefield.

Repetition is key, Cook said, "all the time, all the time, all the time."
 
...The East Coast Navy gets all the cool toys. Over on the West coast, all we've got watching our backs when we pull in are little two man patrols boats equipped with M60s.
 
Sounds to me like a smaller, lightly armed, modern version (did I mention SMALLER) of the late WW2 PT Boat. I did say SMALLER did'nt I?


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I was in San Diego on vacation two months ago, and took some pictures of the small boats running around the harbor escorting the cruisers.
 

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Am i the only person who caught this?

>Three small Navy patrol boats bounced over the wake of a destroyer Wednesday morning.

The trio of new boats hooked left, accelerated to 30 knots and cruised past the lumbering giant in the calm waters.<

Since when does a destroyer qualify as a "lumbering giant"????
 
Since when does a destroyer qualify as a "lumbering giant"????
I was wondering about that too. :scrutiny:

These boats don't seem a terribly good idea. Not enough firepower to do much, and not large enough to carry any appreciable crew (for boarding, etc). And they are probably going to be ridiculously expensive.
 
So why is this certified older fart reminder of the "Brown Water Navy" of the 60's - 70's in Vietnam?

Those old tubs at least had an 81 mm mortar on board, and I recall a few with 40 mm grenade launchers. There was one boat I saw that had twin 40 mm Bofors mounted ahead of the cockpit, along with dual 50 BMGs on both sides of the cockpit.

IMHO torpedoes and depth charges are not the toys of choice in a harbor - too confined for effective use of torpedoes and concussion grenades with variable fuses work well against divers and for "nudging" things underwater to see if they go boom. (on a personal note - concussion grenades also are useful for fishing if you are short on time)

I'm not knocking the new versions - just saying it sounds like the wheel has come full around again.

stay safe.

skidmark
 
Since when does a destroyer qualify as a "lumbering giant"????
My guess is back in the late 70's when they suddenly redesignated what was then a cruiser and started calling it a destroyer. The Spruance class to be exact. Of course our Adams class destroyers built in the 60's were a bit bigger than what they called a destroyer in WWII.
 
Wow, I had no idea these boats could do 30 knots.

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Skidmark, the last river boat is, IIRC, at Mare Island Naval Shipyard, where she's been for years, unless they scrapped her after I left in '89. Heavily armed, and armored, little floating turtle!
 
From a Navy Airedale perspective, I'm sure that when alongside, these little patrol boats make that destroyer appear to be a lumbering giant. Of course, a destroyer alongside an aircraft carrier looks small, too
 
3 automatic rifles and a grenade launcher? That's the armament of a fire team... MINUS the SAW?! :confused:

We've got RACs and Fox boats already in service with more firepower on board. Hell, I've run 14' CRRC's with more firepower playing OPFOR for Northern Edge. Two M240G's, two SAWS and two M203's. The Canadian Navy's Harbor Security boats stood no chance. Until one caught one of our boats in a chase and accidentally ran it over. That counts as a win. :D (still floated on the remaining two cells though.)

This, at first blush, appears to be reinventing the wheel with a clever 4 flat sided upgrade. :rolleyes:


edited to add... 34' long? Maybe they actually meant 3 machine guns (standard misdescription of the SAW is by its role as the team AR as opposed to it's real design as a LMG) and a Mk 19. That'd be a little better.
 
Of course, a destroyer alongside an aircraft carrier looks small, too
Yes they do! The top of our mast did not clear the flight deck on a carrier. We were an Adams class though. Not sure how the Spruances and Arleigh Burkes compared. I know they was bigger than us.
 
Back when I was in a Boat Group, we mounted 2 M-60s, 1 M2 50 cal, and a MK 19 grenade launcher in the boat, as well as had Law rockets. We also carried hand grenades that could be dropped in the water and act as small depth charges for enemy divers.

In addition to the fixed weapons, we had personal/boarding weapons including M14s, M16s, M16/203 combos, Shotguns, and 1911 pistols.


The Navy has always had small boat groups, but now they are getting more press and visability. In addition, the Navy is teaming up with the Coast Guard more. The new Sea Fighter craft is staffed with both Sailors and Coasties.
 
For this old River Assault Craft Sailor, they remind me of the PBR, with the exception of the armament. The PBRs if I recall, had quite a bit more armament. The Mobile Riverine Force has some of the Vietnam era boats on display in Coronado California. If I am not mistaken, there is a PBR, A Swift Boat (PCF) and the Last CCB (Command and Communications ) a converted LCM-6
 
Boats like this are just like having a terrier as a watchdog. You want them to have enough bark and bite to give you time to grab your shotgun and flashlight.

They are not meant to be naval warfare ships, but pickets, or watchdogs, able to run about and wake up the big boys.
 
Three different areas...

Ladies and Gentlemen,

There are three different "areas" where the Navy deals with "small boats".

First, you have the units that are protecting harbors. This implies that there is some semblance of an infrastructure. They are mostly concerened with the terroist threat.

Second, you have the new Riverine Squadrons. They are new (established within the last six months) and their mission is being refined on the fly. I think that the Navy realized that the USMC was doing a mission we (USN) should be doing in Iraq. These are the units that would forward deploy where ever needed to patrol areas to shallow for Frigates and Destroyers. We have gotten away from this mission because we built of strategic vision around defeating the Soviet Navy in the open ocean.

Finally, there are the Naval Special Warfare boats. They have a highly specialized mission and highly specialized equipment.

A lot of the details about Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures are classified. Although I enjoyed Ft Leavenworht as a student at the Army Command and Staff College, I have no desire to be a resisdent at the US Disciplinary Barracks, so forgive me for not getting into more details. I will say that because the Rivirine squadrons are new and Coastal Warfare belonged to the Reserves, there is a big "Wait and see..." attitude.

A lot of people have a lot of ideas about what kind of capability the ships should heave, but the XO is about to beat me over the head with the POD if I don't get back to work...
 
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