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Need advice for .45ACP 1911 Purchase

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by JazzDoc, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. JazzDoc

    JazzDoc Member

    About to buy a full size 1911 .45ACP. I'm down to three choices - please offer your candid opinion, pros and cons, regarding these options, and thanks in advance:

    1) Ed Brown Special Forces, 5 inch

    2) Kimber Gold Match II

    3) Colt Gold Cup National Match

  2. cyclopsshooter

    cyclopsshooter Well-Known Member

    Carry or target? The Kimber and Colt are target guns with sights that may not be the best for carry. I would rank overall pistol quality 1 Ed B 2 Colt 3 Kimber

    If you want to spend money get the Ed Brown. The Colt will serve you just as well for less. The Kimber probably would too.
  3. smalls

    smalls Well-Known Member

    The fit, finish, accuracy and warranty of the Ed Brown will make the other two look like BB guns.
  4. JazzDoc

    JazzDoc Member

    Thanks very much for the replies, guys. Appreciated greatly.

    Target and personal home defense, not carry.
  5. Simmy952

    Simmy952 Well-Known Member

    Kimber would be the last one on the list. Colts are ok but they put a lot on their name. Check out Sig Sauer's line of 1911. For what you are going to drop on a EB, you could buy 2 Sigs and still have some jingle left in your pocket. I bought 2 of the Sigs and they are a very good value for the money. Check out their features. The fit and finish on them are top notch. My first 1911 was a Les Baer. That was when I thought you had to drop lots of cash to get a good 1911. Try one or check them out and I think you will be impressed.
  6. cyclopsshooter

    cyclopsshooter Well-Known Member

    Sig is just as mimtastic as Kimber
  7. EddieNFL

    EddieNFL member

    1) Brown

    2) Colt

    13) Kimber

    No, the 13 is not a typo.
  8. BYJO4

    BYJO4 Well-Known Member

    I suggest you also consider a Les Baer PII. For accuracy and quality construction, you get alot for the money. I definitely prefer adjustable sights for range guns and won't cause any problems with home defense use. If you want a Brown, I would get the Executive Target.
  9. jim243

    jim243 Well-Known Member

  10. cyclopsshooter

    cyclopsshooter Well-Known Member

  11. burk

    burk Well-Known Member

    And so is Colt. I don't get the reverence toward Colt. We just got a new Special Agent in and the fit and finish wasn't much better than ATI. Kimber still makes GREAT 1911's for the money if you compare them feature for feature. The Ed Brown should be a better gun, but I've sold and owned enough Kimbers where I have no question of their reliability, QC or value. Are they the best? Nope, but I've yet to see an MIM failure with one. There are a few other 1911's I'm impressed with (Dan Wesson in particular), but you'll have a hard time beating a Kimber for the same dollars with an available gun.
  12. tomrkba

    tomrkba Well-Known Member

    Just buy the Ed Brown gun and get it over with.
  13. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    I bought two Colt 1911's in the last few years, and both have been flawless.
  14. cyclopsshooter

    cyclopsshooter Well-Known Member

    Metallurgy, Colt only Mims the mag catch, sear, disconnector. Sig and Kimber go much further by MIMing safties, hammers, slide-stops...

    Colt vs ATI... Colt uses forged steel- ATI is cast.. do your metallurgical homework before judging a book by its cover.
  15. JazzDoc

    JazzDoc Member

    Again - many thanks for the input and the great photos! Loads of food for thought before I drop that dime.
  16. CZ57

    CZ57 member

    JazzDoc, in that same price range you have several options with Dan Wesson which I wouldn't feel any need to spend more money with something else. ;)
  17. burk

    burk Well-Known Member

    But my point is no one has shown me proof of significant failure rates among MIM parts (at least those used by Kimber). For the record I've seen two Bullet Proof Wilson slide stops crack, I've yet to see a Kimber slide stop crack. While Kimber has had some issues notably the external extractor stuff they make some great guns, but people love to take pot shots at them, it just gets old. At least they are building quality guns in the US, and making their own frames. They aren't getting Frames from the Philippines or Brazil like a couple of their competitors. I think they should be applauded for maintaining quality while they keep their production in the US.

    My beef with the Colt vs ATI wasn't the metallurgy it was the fit and finish. The Special agent had loads of sharp edges, sloppy fit on the safeties and beavertail and to be frank I was generally unimpressed. For a thousand dollar carry piece they should pay attention to details that make them safer. A carry gun with multiple easily snagged edges is simply not fit for the market.
  18. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    There's nothing wrong with a Kimber. Haters gonna hate.
  19. lobo9er

    lobo9er Well-Known Member

    Kimber owners how are yours holding up?
  20. MaterDei

    MaterDei Well-Known Member

    I'd get the Ed Brown.


    Well, I've got a Kimber already. I've had it for 10 years and it's boring. It feeds everything I've ever given it and it shoots wherever I point it. I've fired thousand of rounds through it to include some very sketchy reloads and it has never flinched. Where's the fun in that?

    Ed Browns are highly touted. I'd love to get one so that I can find out what it is about them that makes them so great. People say things like:

    Not sure where I've heard statements like this but if you look hard enough I'm sure you'll find things like these said about Ed Browns. I'm not doubting that the Ed Browns are good, I'd like to own one so that I can finally learn how crappy my Kimber is and what it is that I've been missing all these years.

    Colts, too, seem nice but I'm not going to buy one. Colt owners are like Dallas Cowboys' fans, annoying. I'll let others be Colt and Glock fan boys. :p

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