Need help with Gunbroker deal gone bad

[shootniron]

If you think the price was a mistake...be a MAN, accept the refund and let it go.

The only thing that you will be out, is taking advantage of someone's mistake.

 

[il.bill]

The seller was Guncorps.

Good to know - thanks!

 

[steady shot]

If you think the price was a mistake...be a MAN, accept the refund and let it go.

The only thing that you will be out, is taking advantage of someone's mistake.

Listen, we are not talking about a big amount of money here. They had a price of $225 for a Weatherby PA-08 TR 12 gauge shotgun, MSRP $399.

I won the auction for $225, but now they want $315 for the gun I have already won and PAID for......

If anyone needs to be a "MAN" it's the seller.....

 

[45_auto]

They are not good people. They have no honor, they're only interested in making a buck. Consider it a learning experience, don't do business with them again.

Now that you know that about them, it's not worth worrying about any further. Get your refund and go on with your life.

 

[ThomasT]

I bought a model airplane engine off ebay. The seller never sent the engine or acknowledged that I has won it. When I contacted them they said they were giving me a refund. They stated the muffler on the engine was broke.

They relisted the same engine for the same buy it now price and someone else bought. I contacted the new buyer and he stated that it was not broke. I contacted EBay with a report about the sale and the seller. Ebay didn't do a damned thing about it.

I think the buyer protection from online auction sites is a complete joke. Be glad you got your money back and be sure and leave a feedback that shows them for what they are.

 

[HOOfan_1]

Isn't the point of an auction that you may get it for less than it is worth, or the seller may get more than it is worth?

If the seller doesn't want to play by the rules, then they should be banned from using the service.

 

[SeanSw]

I have always been left with a poor deal at the end of the day on Gunbroker. None of my guns checked out well, Gunbroker didn't care and neither did the sellers once the money was sent. I will probably never use them again. Not worth the hassle at all.

 

[Panzerschwein]

Don't swear off gunbroker altogether -- I've probably made about 50 deals on the site, never had a problem. I guarantee I've saved many thousands of dollars in taxes and gun costs.

Agreed.

Many will tell you "you have yo buy at local gun shops" but the economy is hard right now. I've found guns on Gunbroker that are EASILY 25% lower including shipping over local prices on the same new guns. Also, I've never had a bad gun transaction and I've also sold a number of guns for excellent prices, far higher than what I would have gotten locally through gun shops. In fact, I'd wager to say that through Gunbroker, I was able to sell a half dozen guns and make even if not a profit, over the last few months, over what I paid for them originally.

I probably would have gotten back just 50% of the cost if I went to the local gun stores and sold them that way.

While this may or may not be a popular opinion here, I will be the first to say that in general, Gunbroker is most awesome.

 

[BearW]

I too use gunbroker a lot. Almost exclusively. I just bought some stripped lowers for $80 delivered off gunbroker. At my local gun store they are $110 plus tax. I love gunbroker. Have never had a deal go bad(knock on wood)

 

[steady shot]

I bought a model airplane engine off ebay. The seller never sent the engine or acknowledged that I has won it. When I contacted them they said they were giving me a refund. They stated the muffler on the engine was broke.

They relisted the same engine for the same buy it now price and someone else bought. I contacted the new buyer and he stated that it was not broke. I contacted EBay with a report about the sale and the seller. Ebay didn't do a damned thing about it.

I think the buyer protection from online auction sites is a complete joke. Be glad you got your money back and be sure and leave a feedback that shows them for what they are.

I haven't got my money back yet...... I am sill waiting on a refund....

 

[AKElroy]

And this, dear reader, is why you don't buy stuff at online auction sites. Look on the bright side, at least you haven't lost any money.

I've puchased many guns through GB, and although it has not been a perfect record, I was able to buy guns not available anywhere else. If buying new, there are better/safer options.

But a new/old stock marlin 336 unfired in the original box from 1974? Not going to find that at my local GS. Ditto a vintage Remmy 1100; unfired. For guys like me that need high luster blue, deep gloss highly figured walnut, you either need a time machine, or the ability to search thousands of sellers.

 

[red rick]

I would just be happy to get my money back from them and report them to gunbroker .

 

[Zach S]

Honestly, it seems like you knew they made a mistake and tried to exploit it. Then they sold you a line of BS instead of owning their mistake.

You won it for X, they pay Z. Ask to meet them at Y.

 

[joem1945]

File a complant with your states Att Gen claiming fraud and bait and switch. It might take a bit before they act but it will get the sellers attention for sure. The state can file suit against the seller and fine them.

 

[jerkface11]

It's not that easy to put the wrong price on a gunbroker listing. I doubt this was a mistake. If it had been that's what they would have told him instead of lying and saying they had already sold the gun.

 

[ThomasT]

I haven't got my money back yet...... I am sill waiting on a refund....

OK I thought you had already got the refund. I don't think they will try to keep your money. Other than a non paying buyer I have never had a bad GB experience.

 

[HOOfan_1]

Again, I am asking, how does one make a "mistake" in pricing when they put an item up for bid in an auction?

I am seeing the shotgun the OP listed going for ~$280-$300 all over the web.

The whole point of an auction is that the bidders may get a really good deal, or the seller may be able to sell an item for more money.

$225 is hardly a huge drop from what this gun is selling for. You certainly don't charge a person's credit card if there was a mistake.

 

[BearW]

Like I said earlier I love gunbroker but the seller should still sell the gun for auction price. I sell stuff all the time via the interweb and every now and then I will sell something for a price and get a better offer from someone else but will sell to the first person because of ethics. In short the seller is at fault.

 

[Swing]

If the seller don't give you your gun for the price you won it for they will be banned.

They should be. Once the auction is finished, it is a contractual agreement. I know the few deadbeats I had on Auction Arms were ban hammered quite quickly. I haven't had to avail myself of Gunbroker's support in that regard, but I'd imagine they also take a dim view of these kind of shenanigans.

LOL, so the only thing they really did was prevent the seller from giving me feedback.....

I hope you gave them a very low rating. If for no other reason that others buyers know how they do business.

And this, dear reader, is why you don't buy stuff at online auction sites. Look on the bright side, at least you haven't lost any money.

Too each their own. Personally, I've bought and sold firearms and related items on at least two different auction sites and several other sites, for over a decade and a half and haven't had any real issues. Other than a couple deadbeats, a few knuckle-heads that required extra attention, and the omnipresent tire-kickers, I've never had a truly horrid experience, nor lost money. Dozens of items that are totally unavailable where I am were acquired legally, quickly, easily, and at a price I was willing to pay. Items I no longer wanted were liquidated just as easy. In other words, I'm happy with the auction system. Bad thing can certainly happen (see OP), but after (going on) 17 years of doing so, my experience has been 97-98% positive. That's hard to beat in any market. YMMV.

If anyone needs to be a "MAN" it's the seller.....

Exactly. One of the rules of being a man is honoring your word, be it verbally or contractually. The seller weaseled out of a legally binding contract.

 

[sappyg]

A deal too good to be true maybe. We've all had one from time to time so nothing ventured nothing gained.
I've been watch GB for a while now and looking for a specific gun. I see a lot of guns listed but not a lot of selling. Come on man? Guns with no reserve but starting at book or retail? No thanks. That's not an auction but more like a fishing expedition.
As to the seller. In this case they sound a little slimy. So much so that I'm double checking the listings I'm looking at to see who the seller is. I need to be more cautious.

 

[SleeStac]

I too have had only good experiences with Gun Broker so don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

I noticed Gun Corps has 8 reviews on Google with a rating of 4.9 out of 5. Their rating comes up when you google their business. You might want to relate your experience in a Google review so that other customers can accurately judge the quality of their service. Also, I think that if I were in your shoes, I'd contact the Better Business Bureau and file a complaint with them. The internet,among other things, have given us more avenues to complain.

 

[evan price]

I've had a couple bad deals on Gunbroker, but so far not actually out any money, just had bad experiences. That said, the couple bad deals are totally buried in the hundreds of good deals. It's a price of doing business on the internet and getting bargains.
If the seller wanted a minimum price for their shotgun they should have used a reserve. It is entirely possible to just not get enough interest in an item and have to sell it for, maybe, three cents, without a reserve. But a deal is a deal and if a seller puts it in with no reserve then the deal is done.

Get your refund, leave negative feedback, move on.

One of my bad deals was a local seller with a Colt Cobra revolver at no reserve, auction closed with me the high bidder at a price about half what they tended to go for. Seller had lousy pictures and little information but since he was local I was willing to gamble.

When I tried to arrange payment and personal pickup (refused.) So I give my FFL info and request total with shipping, the seller came up with some lame story about how his gunsmith discovered the frame was cracked and by the time he had gone back to get it the gunsmith had destroyed the gun. So I told him that was OK, I still wanted the parts. So the seller said that the gunsmith had thrown away the parts. Then that same day, the seller put up another auction for the same gun, this time with a reserve. So I left negative feedback and moved on.
The seller left ME negative feedback and claimed I had never contacted or made an attempt to pay. LOL, I had all the emails.
Gunbroker support was not amused, and after they removed the bad feedback he left for me, they banned the seller.