Neighbor irked at gun shop in neighborhood

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Saw this in my local paper. Does it seem like complainer is anti-gun?

Why'd the newspaper (liberal Carbondale, home of Southern Illinois University) emphasize the gun shop and not just a business?


Gun shop in Marion residential area irks neighbor

By Becky Malkovich, The Southern
Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:01 AM CST

MARION - Good fences may make good neighbors, as poet Robert Frost wrote.

Operating a gun shop in a neighborhood zoned residential may not.

That's the issue coming between long-time neighbors John Tucker and Thomas Wimberly, who live side-by-side on a quiet cul-de-sac in Marion.

Tucker operates a small gun shop out of his residence that caters mostly to law enforcement personnel. Wimberly lives next door in the house he moved into in 1975.

"There are strangers carrying guns in and out all day and coming to my door, wanting to know where the gun and ammo dealer is," Wimberly said. "They park in front of my house, blocking my mailbox so I can't get my mail. It's constant."

Wimberly said has no beef with Tucker, who has been his neighbor since about 1978.

"I think at first he did it as a hobby, but in the past few years the traffic has picked up immensely," Wimberly said. "All I want is for the city to enforce the codes they've got, otherwise, why have them?"

He said he is concerned that having a gun and ammo dealer or any commercial business next door, could lower the value of his property.

His repeated complaints to city officials have fallen on deaf ears, Wimberly said.

Tucker said he is in possession of all licenses and permits necessary to operate his business and is in compliance with the city ordinances.

"He is the only guy who complained," Tucker said. "If there is something else I need to be doing, I'd be happy to do it, but the city says I've done what I need to do to be legal."

The neighborhood is zoned R-1, Marion Director of Code Enforcement Jim Phemister said, meaning it is intended for single-family residences only.

However, Phemister said, the ordinance creating the R-1 zone was adopted in 1987, long after Tucker moved into the neighborhood and began his part-time business.

"As far as I'm concerned, he is grandfathered in," Phemister said of Tucker's retail business. "I don't intend to do anything to close a 30-year-old business because of one neighbor's complaint. This is the first complaint we've received in all these years. He has all his licenses and permits, so he is legal."

Wimberly contends the city had an ordinance in place in 1972, but Phemister said the 1987 ordinance superseded that one.

"The 1987 code is what I go by," Phemister said. "There are a lot of small businesses in R-1 (zoned areas) that have been grandfathered in."

He said Wimberly has the option of going to the city council meeting to air his disagreement with Phemister's decision.
 
Yeah I saw that one too, I had to think that since they have both been there since the late 70's and now he's complaining about the traffic and parking in front of his house and the folks coming to his door, that the complaint might actually have some merit to it as they seem to get along with on minor irritation.
Then again some of the things The Southern has been printing as 'news' lately has to make one wonder if they have a brain over there.
 
I'd need to know what his state and local law has to say about grandfathering. Maybe the 1987 Code wiped out nonconforming use complaints under the 1972 Code, maybe not. Phemister sounds rather conclusory. Sounds like it's headed to a city hall hearing, followed by state court.

Non-conforming uses are a pain for municipalities to deal with. Nobody wants to wipe out a legitimate business, but eventually the business grows to the point where it ought to move into a commercial zone.
 
On the plus side, that will keep the crack houses out of the neighborhood.
 
On the plus side, that will keep the crack houses out of the neighborhood.

Good point. Who here wouldn't want a gun store / legit dealer so close to home? Better that he caters to cops than thugs.
 
Personally I wouldn't mind if my neighbor was selling guns and ammo to law enforcement and opperating as a legal business. Now if he was selling guns to anybody with cash that might be different.
 
Of course the newspaper is obligated to report that it's a gun shop. If it was a strip club, wouldn't you expect it report that -- or a daycare center or a hose-the-pet-off haven or a local beauty parlor or whatever? Wouldn't you want to know, as a reader, what the fuss was is all about? The newspaper would be a silly, stupid, no-nothing operation if it didn't report the type of business involved.
 
searcher:

Of course the newspaper is obligated to report that it's a gun shop. If it was a strip club, wouldn't you expect it report that -- or a daycare center or a hose-the-pet-off haven or a local beauty parlor or whatever? Wouldn't you want to know, as a reader, what the fuss was is all about? The newspaper would be a silly, stupid, no-nothing operation if it didn't report the type of business involved.


My response, Searcher, would be how many little complaints occur constantly between a business and a homeowner, in this case ONE homeowner, that are undeserving of front page news? I'd say many, but this one gets front page news, imho, because it paints gun ownership negatively.
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These kinds of things go on in every town, with every kind of small business. It only makes the paper when its a really slow news day and somebody (probably the complaining neighbor) calls a reporter.
 
The guy is pissed cause of the constant traffic, I'd be pissed too, and I suspect it has picked up tremendously over the past few weeks, so now it's front page news, and on the B side "Glenda's cat has finally come home," well good! see ya at church."
 
I just talked to a guy I work with who is friends with that gun shop owner and another guy I work with lives across the street.. they both said he pisses and moans about everything and there is no making the guy happy. But leave it to the news service to leave out all those details and just report a gun shop in town, guns everywhere, guns in the wrong person yard, guns guns guns guns guns........
 
I don't understand why people can't work things out among themselves instead of immediately turning to the authorities.

Why can't he put a sign out saying, "gun store is next door" or something? :scrutiny:
 
Sounds like the major problem is traffic and parking.

I can see the city putting up some no parking signs and making the gun shop owner create a bigger parking area if there is room on his property.

Let's all try to get along.
 
If the cops can't find the right house in broad daylight to pick up their guns, I've gotta worry about them serving warrants in the dark!
 
He can move in next to me. I'll bring the beer and help him move in, Would love to have a dealer that close and cops running in and out all the time. He probably has the safest neighborhood for miles
 
Yep, the solution is to complain that the hours of operation aren't appropriate for a residential neighborhood, and get him restricted as to when he can have customers. Local governments love to restrict peoples' freedoms for no good reason.
 
The gun shop owner needs to get real; if he has had a business since the '70s, he should put a giant plastic revolver on the roof.

It will tastefully match with his Harvest Gold and Avacdo Green kitchen.

And even if it does not, his neighbor will pay him to remove it, and then happily shut up.
 
Harvest Gold and Avocado Green -- LOL -- I just bought a house that hasn't been redecorated since the 70s......

Perhaps he could just put some pink flamingos in his lawn to make it easier to find his house.
 
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