New addition, question on mag tube capacity and a little story

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brentn

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So we went camping in carolina, a small town just north of where I live. Really nice place, its all government land and you can literally do whatever the hell you want when it comes to camping, fishing etc.

So we set up tent for a couple days and made a firepit in a clearing, it was just the best damn time I have ever had. Got drunk as hell the first night having a great time and we all goto sleep in our comfy tent with air mattresses.

I wake up in the morning to some noises outside my tent, we all wake up and my girlfriend just looks at me. I hear this growling and grunting, and trees being KNOCKED DOWN!!!
I almost **** MY PANTS, it sounded JUST like a bear. The first thought that went into my mind was WHY IN THE HELL DID I NOT BRING A GUN WITH US!.

My step brother was freaking out and I was quickly thinking of a plan and thinking about the situation. Theres a bear outside, defenitly pissed or something becuase its doing the non-stop grunting and growling, like a mating call almost. he's probably looking for food, and being the asses that we were, there was food all outside our tent without being covered up.
If he's looking for food, I knew there was non in the tent and he probably wouldn't bug us if we just stayed quiet.
At this point we're just in awe of the situation, as in, this has to happen to us of all people.
So i start to think some more and I know that bears are attracted to females who are on their period, and my girlfriend just had hers the day before. I wasn't going to take any chances so I told her to get the key to her car, which was right beside us, and we'll bolt for it.
I glance outside the tent window (it was just a small crack and couldn't be opened further) and see nothing, but I can hear this beast right beside us. We start to slowly get ready and then I see it, come out of the brush beside our tent about 4 feet from us through a slit in the tent window...

It was a huge elk! lol.
It was massive, and it was defenitly pissed or something becuase there were cows nearby (no idea how they showed up, we're in the middle of the bush here with other campers) and I think it wanted to fight or mate. Either way my step brother wanted to go outside and take pics but I told him to just stay put cause I heard that they will charge and challenge people who are close.

Anyways, after a little bit they wander away and we start cleaning up.
Point being, I went into town and picked up their least expensive shotgun they had at this general store. It was a mossberg maverick model 88, six shots and an 18.5" barrel. I figured I'd rather have something than nothing, and wanted a beater shotgun (something I could completley neglect and not worry about) for a while.
Picked it up and some 00 2 3/4 shells and felt much much safer the next night/morning :D Heres a pic of it
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I have cut the barrel nicely at the end so that it matches the magazine tube and takedown screw. Before you all freak out about it being illegal, I'll mention that shotguns are NOT illegal if the barrel is cut. It is illegal ONLY if you go below an overall length of 26 inches regardless of barrel length.
Point being I figured that it would be that much easier to handle with the now 15" barrel.

It says that it holds 6 shells, however I can only fit 5. THere was a wooden dowel inserted into the tube which limited it to two, but I removed it. I feel as though there is still something blocking it, and i can see now way to access the inside of the magazine tube, looks pretty sealed up. If you guys know something that I don't, let me know, but 5 shells fit, and half of a sixth only goes in.
any ideas?
 
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"If he's looking for food, I knew there was non in the tent and he probably wouldn't bug us if we just stayed quiet."

You are attributing a high degree of rationality to a wild animal.
 
Yea well, all I have is what I know and not anything more at the moment. Did I say that I was an expert animal tracker? hunter? I'm just a city boy who was having a good time in the bush.
If you want to tell me something that I should know, as in what to do in that type of situation, by all means share.
 
I think that the "6 shells" capacity that yo are thinking of means one in the chamber, and 5 in the magazine. The Mossberg Maverick 88 (and the Mossberg 500) with the standard length magazine tube hold 5 rounds in the magazine. Compare that to other pump shotguns, such as the Winchester 1300 and the Remington 870, which only hold 4 rounds in the magazine.

The reason that the 6th shell only fits partway in when you try to insert it is the spring compressing fully and bottoming out.
 
Looks like your right avenger. I managed to disassemble the magazine tube by rotating it out of the reciever. Noticed that there is no more 'blockage' of any sort and when I fit shells into the tube alone by hand, it bottomed out the spring. Even with no spring or follower, putting in six shells has the shell just about touching the rim, meaning that with a spring in there theres no way it will hold 6

so 5 in the tube and one in the pipe.
 
Well, I think you already know. Do not keep food in your camp. Wash thoroughly. Hang the food up on ropes well up off the ground. A dog is handy as an early warning system.
 
Nice ! I wish I could do that without going through a bunch of paperwork to make it legal.

One suggestion - get some slugs . You need the penitration of the heavy slug to get to vitals on a bear . The buckshot may not work very well on them.

Yes, it is 5+1 for the capacity . 5 in the mag, 1 in the pipe as you determined.
 
The reason there is space left over is because the magazine will hold 5 - 3" shells. So if you are using 2-3/4" you have enough space left to stick a 6th round about half way in.
 
christ... well that was dumb...

I'll quote what I read on the cfc website as to why I thought it was ok.
rifles and shotguns that have been altered so that their barrel length is less than 457 mm (about 18 inches) or their overall length is less than 660 mm (about 26 inches);

I had altered it but the overall length was not less than 26 inches...

Either way I'm throwing the barrel out and I'll have to get a new one. It just aint worth it to have my firearms taken away and not being able to purchase them again..

Thanks for the link, kept me out of trouble.
 
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