New Blue Python BROKE! ugghh

stonebuster said:
Is it one particular chamber that is causing the
roval said:
are you sure your bullets are not too long? the colt cylinders are shorter than ruger and smith and wesson. i had one load i could not close the cylinder on and it turns out the bullet tip was protruding just a bit. those bullets run fine in the other guns.
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headspace/dragging/binding? Maybe one case head not seated fully & standing too proud? I totally understand your disappointment but wondering if the cause could be something simple.
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I’m going to do more testing tonight with every conceivable ammo I have. Including .38 Wadcutters
 
Mark_Mark said:
I appreciate it! I’m over it! But this would be a good reason to go over this Blue Python with a fine tooth comb! I’m not mailing it out til Monday, so if you guys want me to measure anything, photos, any test you can think of… LET ME KNOW MEMBERS!

have you seen the price of a Old Anaconda.44 mag ??? 😮 EXPENSIVE
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I pretty much just drop off every new gun with a trusted gunsmith. The standing instruction is "Go through it and fix whatever needs fixing. Call me if the bill will exceed 50 percent of the purchase price."

On more than one occasion, I didn't hear from him for several months, because he'd find so much wrong that he would send the gun back to the manufacturer himself, then fix whatever was left over when he got it back. This doesn't bother me too terribly much with $600 Rugers and the like, but jeez, when you pay fifteen hundred bucks for a marquee name and the damn thing isn't actually a functional handgun...
 
.38 Special said:
I pretty much just drop off every new gun with a trusted gunsmith. The standing instruction is "Go through it and fix whatever needs fixing. Call me if the bill will exceed 50 percent of the purchase price."

On more than one occasion, I didn't hear from him for several months, because he'd find so much wrong that he would send the gun back to the manufacturer himself, then fix whatever was left over when he got it back. This doesn't bother me too terribly much with $600 Rugers and the like, but jeez, when you pay fifteen hundred bucks for a marquee name and the damn thing isn't actually a functional handgun...
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I got a slab of ribs on the smoker, fresh cigar waiting, cool drink… once the kids are snoring, I’ll try different cases and head stamps. Run them through a sizer die and see what if it’s me or the gun.

but gun is definitely going back for the rear sight and wave blueing on the side plate
 
.38 Special said:
I pretty much just drop off every new gun with a trusted gunsmith. The standing instruction is "Go through it and fix whatever needs fixing. Call me if the bill will exceed 50 percent of the purchase price."

On more than one occasion, I didn't hear from him for several months, because he'd find so much wrong that he would send the gun back to the manufacturer himself, then fix whatever was left over when he got it back. This doesn't bother me too terribly much with $600 Rugers and the like, but jeez, when you pay fifteen hundred bucks for a marquee name and the damn thing isn't actually a functional handgun...
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btw… This seal the deal that Used Old Guns are better than New Productions stuff
 
.38 Special said:
I'm not sure if old guns were made better, or if they've just all been fixed by now, but yeah.
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the materials were not as good as modern, but definitely made better!

example, I put the Smith 14-4 on Layaway today, the DA pull was absolutely butter smooth, SA was probably 1#!

Can Modern Guns do that… 100% but at what cost???$4,000 - $5,000 -$6,000?? Old Classic that work are a BARGAIN
 
Wow! I am sorry to hear about this Mark. I hope they fix it, but I know how you feel. That feeling of disappointment when a brand new gun fails, for whatever reason, takes a long while to go away. Sometimes it never goes away…until you rid yourself of it.

Regret is one of the most powerful human emotions. In the past couple of years I have been dumping anything and everything that I regret buying or that causes me regret.
I recently dumped some firearms that caused me regret. That was nice and I got a cool Henry rifle out of it.

youtu.be

Monty Python - Always Look on the Bright Side of Life

Monty Python's Life of Brian - Always Look on the Bright Side of Life. "Life's a Piece of ****, When You Look at It."
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silicosys4 said:
And every time you send it back your odds of having it returned right and tight go up too.
Eventually you'll get a good gun
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I once saw posted, apparently in all seriousness, “Any decent gun ought to be working right after only two trips back to the factory.”

I was once told by a dealer, concerning a particular brand of magazine, “Just keep sending it back until you get one that works.”

It has been a long time since I bought a gun. The last couple were OK but stories like this make me wary about keeping up with the Joneses.
 
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Pat Riot said:
Wow! I am sorry to hear about this Mark. I hope they fix it, but I know how you feel. That feeling of disappointment when a brand new gun fails, for whatever reason, takes a long while to go away. Sometimes it never goes away…until you rid yourself of it.

Regret is one of the most powerful human emotions. In the past couple of years I have been dumping anything and everything that I regret buying or that causes me regret.
I recently dumped some firearms that caused me regret. That was nice and I got a cool Henry rifle out of it.

youtu.be

Monty Python - Always Look on the Bright Side of Life

Monty Python's Life of Brian - Always Look on the Bright Side of Life. "Life's a Piece of ****, When You Look at It."
youtu.be youtu.be
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Gun Regret Therapy… let’s talk about our feelings LOL!!!!

Yes… Always Look on the Bright Side of Life! Especially when life leaves you hanging! 😂
 
Mark_Mark said:
the materials were not as good as modern, but definitely made better!

example, I put the Smith 14-4 on Layaway today, the DA pull was absolutely butter smooth, SA was probably 1#!

Can Modern Guns do that… 100% but at what cost???$4,000 - $5,000 -$6,000?? Old Classic that work are a BARGAIN
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kind of funny, but one of the things I didn't mention in that thread about the NiB DS-II I picked up...terrible trigger. Single action about 6 lbs, DA about 10lbs, and the return spring is far too light for my tastes, making it super easy to short stroke if ran with any kind of speed.
I am still super happy with it even though its got the wonkiest trigger I think i've ever felt on a revolver. I didn't buy it to shoot so I can live with a wonky trigger
Imagine if I had the same problem you do...

One good thing about new guns, you do have the option of using that warranty.
 
silicosys4 said:
kind of funny, but one of the things I didn't mention in that thread about the NiB DS-II I picked up...terrible trigger. Single action about 6 lbs, DA about 10lbs, and the return spring is far too light for my tastes, making it super easy to short stroke if ran with any kind of speed.
I am still super happy with it even though its got the wonkiest trigger I think i've ever felt on a revolver. I didn't buy it to shoot so I can live with a wonky trigger
Imagine if I had the same problem you do...

One good thing about new guns, you do have the option of using that warranty.
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That’s a nice gun you found! There was one just like yours at a hood-ish gun shop here in Seattle area. They wanted $1800, but I forget what size it was.
 
I feel your pain. In 1977 I bought my first handgun; a Colt 357 6" Python. Went to the range and tried some different ammo. Federal ammo a case got stuck and I could not get it out. I had to send it in. I chose to drive about 60 miles to hand it to the repair center at that time. Got is back and never had an issue. I have not fired it for many years and when my dad passed I got his older 4". I may need to sell them before the change I hear is coming.
 
Mark_Mark said:
BTW: the rear windage screw was loose as a goose.
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Note, at least with the current manufature Colt Python and Anaconda, there is a locking set screw in the rear site. If it has not been tightened appropriated, the rear site will be loose.

It is a kind of a pain in the ass to adjust as you have to loosen the screw, adjust the site and then lock the screw back down. It is well discussed in the Python's manual.

Wilson sights seem to be the after market sites of choice for the Python. I have a a pair but have not installed them yet. If I like them, I'll get a set for my two other new production Anacondas.

As far as the other problems, it is too bad Colt/CZ cannot get their act together on a new production firearm.

Colt was good to me in suppling a replacement rear site for my Python. I hope they are good solving your issues.
 
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cfullgraf said:
Note, at least with the current manufature Colt Python and Anaconda, there is a locking set screw in the rear site. If it has not been tightened appropriated, the rear site will be loose.

It is a kind of a pain in the ass to adjust as you have to loosen the screw, adjust the site and then lock the screw back down. It is well discussed in the Python's manual.

Wilson sights seem to be the after market sites of choice for the Python. I have a a pair but have not installed them yet. If I like them, I get a set for my two other new production Anacondas.

As far as the other problems, it is too bad Colt/CZ cannot get their act together on a new production firearm.

Colt was good to me in suppling a replacement rear site for my Python. I hope they are good solving your issues.
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I’m going to test New Colts resolve on their product.

I don’t really read manuals but… Loosen screw adjust by tapping sights then tighten screw! OK!

thanks
 
Though I favor S&W 686 over the colt, I'm sorry you have had a bad time with it. I own the older python and the newer one, both were given to me by my brother and am never glad I had the issues others have had. I've had the newer version for a couple of years and haven't shot simply because they don't do any thing for me. But I treasure them simply because my younger brother have them to me.
 
Jim Watson said:
I once saw posted, apparently in all seriousness, “Any decent gun ought to be working right after only two trips back to the factory.”
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With new gun, that just should not happen. Shame on the manufacturer for shipping a shoddy product.

I'm not saying a poorly made gun might slip through the cracks once in a while but it should be the exception, not the rule.

Jim Watson said:
I was once told by a dealer, concerning a particular brand of magazine, “Just keep sending it back until you get one that works.”
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This would make me scrap the crappy magazines and send the pistol down the road for someone else to deal with it. It It is not acceptable production by the manufacturer and shame on the customers that put up with the garbage.

Jim Watson said:
It has been a long time since I bought a gun. The last couple were OK but stories like this make me wary about keeping up with the Joneses.
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Maybe I have been lucky, but most of the used guns I have purchased have been flawless in their function. One or two have not been good shooters and have had issues.
 
Jim Watson said:
I once saw posted, apparently in all seriousness, “Any decent gun ought to be working right after only two trips back to the factory.”
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Of course I am preaching to the choir, but any decent gun should never have to go back to the factory. Where do people come up with this BS?

I hate to say it, but people born after, let’s say 1980, may have this opinion because, quite honestly, many companies just do not put out the quality of products they once did. I think they learned from the computer and software that “beta testing” products for a manufacturer is “Okay”…OR the other manufacturers learned this technique or process from the computer and software companies. Either way, it’s a damn shame that inferior products have become the norm.

When I had an issue with my Ruger SFAR a manager at my gun club said “Keep sending it back, Ruger will make it good.”
My response, which raised his eyebrows, “Ruger should make it GOOD in the first place.”
Luckily it has only gone back once.

I do understand that guns are mechanical devices and mechanical devices break, but they shouldn’t break because there was no QA worth a darn at the factory.
 
Pat Riot said:
Of course I am preaching to the choir, but any decent gun should never have to go back to the factory. Where do people come up with this BS?

I hate to say it, but people born after, let’s say 1980, may have this opinion because, quite honestly, many companies just do not put out the quality of products they once did. I think they learned from the computer and software that “beta testing” products for a manufacturer is “Okay”…OR the other manufacturers learned this technique or process from the computer and software companies. Either way, it’s a damn shame that inferior products have become the norm.

When I had an issue with my Ruger SFAR a manager at my gun club said “Keep sending it back, Ruger will make it good.”
My response, which raised his eyebrows, “Ruger should make it GOOD in the first place.”
Luckily it has only gone back once.

I do understand that guns are mechanical devices and mechanical devices break, but they shouldn’t break because there was no QA worth a darn at the factory.
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oooh yeah! I knew what I was getting into with buying New Colt. It’s Cool man!

you know what’s really cool! my Smith & Western Model 36 no dash! Now that’s a Quality Gun! was messing with it last night and admiring the quality and craftsmanship
 
I bought a Colt Mustang. Rear sight was loose in the dovetail, kept sliding off.
I bought a vintage Anaconda, cylinder latch was loose in the dove tail, kept scraping the frame.
I bought a Colt Government Model Competition Series Model 0, Creepy, gritty trigger. This is supposed to be a ready to go competition gun?
I bought a stainless neo Anaconda. single action trigger pull is WAY too high.
I bought a stainless neo Python, single action trigger pull is WAY too high.
And people pay extra for the prancing pony?
 
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