New Hunting Rifles Incoming!

[BADUNAME37]

People are becoming increasingly "aware" as to what they are purchasing and JUST WHERE IT IS MADE.
Are all the supplies you listed made in USA, or is there anything made in China? If the latter, I would definately NOT buy from them.

 

[USSR]

Krag-Jorgenson action:
Calibers: .308 Winchester

Single lug Krag action chambered in .308 Winchester? No thanks, and I'll stand behind a wall while you shoot it.

Don

 

[CmdrSlander]

@USSR

Contrary to some rumors, the Krag-Jørgensen action can be modified to fire modern, high power cartridges. During World War II, and also in the early '50s, several were produced in 7.92 x 57 mm, which can hardly be considered a low power cartridge. A number of Krag-Jørgensens have also been converted to .30-06 and 7.62 mm NATO for target shooting and hunting. However, it must be stressed that these were all late-production Norwegian Krag-Jørgensen rifles, made in an era when metallurgy was vastly more advanced than when the American Krag-Jørgensen rifles were made. The American Krag-Jørgensen also has only a single locking lug, whereas the Norwegian and Danish versions effectively had two lugs.

We use the latest action and modern materials and techniques, so it can handle the .308 just fine. It is about as strong, if not stronger than a modern hunting rifle action.

 

[USSR]

Regarding the "supposedly" strong Norwegian Krag action:

It is worth noting that Sweden would later adopt a 6.5 x 55mm rifle with a much stronger Mauser bolt action, the m/94 carbine in 1894 and the m/96 Rifle in 1896, both of which were proof-tested with loads generating significantly more pressure than those used to proof the Norwegian Krag action.

So, any way you cut it (using a two-lug Norwegian Krag - new metallurgy or not), the Krag is less strong than a pre-1898 Mauser, and most responsible gunsmiths will not chamber a '93, '94, '95, or '96 Mauser in a 60k psi cartridge like the .308 Winchester. The problem is not the steel, the problem is the design is based on the use of 40k psi cartridges. Just MHO.

Don

 

[TexAg]

CmdrSlander, I don't know if you wrote it, but you pretty much quoted what is on Wikipedia. I'd recommend either using quotation marks or letting us know you've contributed to Wikipedia.

 

[CmdrSlander]

Oops, yah that is a quote from wikipedia.

 

[TexAg]

Right! Well I'd be interested in a modern Krag. I'm sure you'd test it sufficiently, otherwise you'd get you rear end sued off!

 

[gilgsn]

.303 British!

 

[68wj]

I would love to see photos and would be interested in either. It would be nice to see a Krag done right (ie, combine smooth function with decent power).

 

[Rob96]

Have a website link?

 

[lobo9er]

It would be nice to see a Krag done right (ie, combine smooth function with decent power).

Its all opinion but mine is that the Krag was done right. I thought they were cool looking and would make a decent deer rifle.

 

[Ole Humpback]

@ CmdrSlander

Sporter or Classic Mil-Spec? (SMLE's are in the works) but we were thinking .308, .303 could be done for a bit more cash.

Classic Mil-Spec. Specifically the No. 4 MKI SMLE:

And I have no problem with a small premium for 303 British considering that I've not found a modern made (ie newer than 1940's to 1950's non-Pakistani made) gun chambered for it.

And for the record, I have no problem with a Sporter version, but with a single caveat: it must have a stock resembling what the Browning T-Bolt Target/Varmint stock is. I've seen 1917's & SMLE with stocks like that and it is a very fitting stock to sporterize those guns with, but my preference is the SMLE No. 4 MKI Mil-Spec stock.

And, FYI, I voted for the "not in my budget at this time" poll option.

 

[helotaxi]

Don't like them because they're built backwards.

 

[gilgsn]

Looks great. I think a lot of people would like a nice sporterized .303. Enfields are easy to find, but except for the Ruger #1 in .303, I know of no other modern .303. It is a great caliber, and a modern rifle would complement a milsup one very well.

 

[Hizzie]

Any more info on these?

 

[BrocLuno]

I didn't vote because the right answer was not available "Nice, but I already have enough of them". As in, I have four M1917's in process around my shop now. There is no problem getting more, as either parts guns, or whole rifles.

Why would I pay $1K for a remodeled 1917 in less than 375 H&H or something? I can build smaller caliber versions with readily available parts. I agree that they are serious actions. That's why I have them as chassis for builds.

As far as the Krag - I think Tikka actions are just as slick or slicker. And I never new the old Krag action could handle hot 06 loads and above?

By the way, who's barrels will be going on these rifles?