New Jersey Legal Question

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Biostockman

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I'm a Pennsylvania resident and I have a valid PA license to carry. I maintain a second residence in New Jersey and would like to know if I am legally able to keep a handgun at my New Jersey home. If so, do I need a NJ Firearms ID Card or do I need to register?

P.S. - Any links to legal information would be greatly appreciated!
 
If you live in PA and move to NJ, then you can buy a gun in PA before you move and legally bring it NJ -no registration required.

You can't carry here.

I am not sure about the dual citizenship thing - I think Nappen's book addresses it - anyone have copy? (it's three floors away from me right now)
 
You don't need a NJ FID to keep a gun in your house as long as the gun was legally acquired someplace else. You can take a gun from you PA house to your NJ House and vice versa. You don't have to register the gun in NJ. You can also take the gun from your NJ house to a range and straight home.

Check NJSP.org click on firearms and follow the links to your answer.

You can get a NJ FID card using your NJ address as long as it a second residence and not just a rental property.
 
To add, it also wouldn't hurt to call the local PD in your NJ town and ask. Whether their answers are correct or misinformed its good to know beforehand.
 
The FID (really a FPID) is not required to own a firearm. As its name suggests (Firearm Purchaser ID) it is required to purchase firearms in NJ. If you own the home in NJ you can keep a NJ legal firearm there and transport it to NJ approved locations (range, gunsmith, your other house), but you may NOT carry it without the mythical NJ carry permit.
 
To add, it also wouldn't hurt to call the local PD in your NJ town and ask. Whether their answers are correct or misinformed its good to know beforehand.

Because the laws are so complex in NJ the local PD is often a source of mis-information, I wouldn't do that.

I did look at Nappen's book and didn't see the case I referenced so maybe I am thinking of something else.

It did mention that out of state folks can get an FID. And as I mentioned, guns bought out of state are legal, provided they meet the AWB restrictions (no more than 15 rounds et al).


So in answer to your original question YES you can keep a gun in your home and NO you do not need a NJ FID. Only caveat there is the AWB restrictions and the usual transport restrictions.

(And don't get caught with any Hollow Points in your car!)

Here is the link to the NJSP gun law PDF: http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/njac-title13-ch54.pdf
 
(And don't get caught with any Hollow Points in your car!)


How are you supposed to get them from the store? NJSP lists the "authorized" uses and possession of hollowpoints on their website. If you are transporting hollowpoints to a legal location in compliance with NJ State law you can carry them in your car.
 
I am going to be traveling to New Jersey this summer for 3 months and want to take my guns with me so don't have 3 months of getting rusty. I have heard no way no how from most people I have asked this to while by the sounds of most the posts on here are saying that it should be no problem. I contacted the Chef of Police in the area i am going to be living and he directed me to the State police saying that all these laws are state laws and they would know better. They have not gotten back in touch with me. I read the laws and didn't say anything that says I can bring my guns, but I didn't see anything that said I couldn't as well. My only problem is what happens if I get pulled over with guns in car and I can't prove I bought them legally? I will be coming all the way from Colorado. My CCW is good in every state on the drive there except NJ! Guess I'll just stop and unload it right before I cross the boarder.
 
am going to be traveling to New Jersey this summer for 3 months and want to take my guns with me
This type of question comes up a lot - usually, in the form of, "I'm going to NJ to visit so-and-so - can I bring a gun?". This is one of the many "gray areas" of NJ law.

As a general rule of law, possession of a long gun in NJ is illegal without first obtaining a Firearms ID card. Possession of a handgun in NJ is illegal without first obtaining a permit to carry. That comes from 2C:39-5 - Unlawful Possession of Weapons.

Now, there are various exemptions to that law. 2C:39-6e says that you may keep or carry any legal firearm about your place of business, residence, premises, or other land that you own or possess.

That's where the gray area comes in. This place that you'll be staying for 3 months - I assume it's not your place of business. I'm also going to assume you don't own the place. So, it comes down to whether or not a prosecutor or judge would consider that place to be your "residence".

And therein lies the potential danger. Lots of people will tell you, "sure, it's fine - you're staying there, it's your residence at the time - it's legal". Some PD's have told people this in the past, too. Unless you hear it from a lawyer who can cite previous case law supporting that position, or a prosecutor who says he considers a temporary residence to meet the standard as it relates to 2C:39-6e, I'd advise caution, and to leave them at home. It sucks, but it sucks a whole lot less than doing years in our State Prison system.

Again - any one who tells you, "go ahead and bring 'em - you'll be fine" is simply offering an opinion. As am I. The difference is, my opinion won't get you convicted.

This is New Jersey. We hate gun people. We hate out-of-state gun people more. We ESPECIALLY hate out-of-state gun people from free states who don't see guns as the scourge of society that we do. Ask the hunter from Utah how much we like out-of-state gun owners.
 
Man New Jersey is really looking like a train wreck of crime and incompetent politicians, plus the pollution and the coal mine fire. It's like that state has been cursed since the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. Of course they let Charles Lindbergh CCW during the trial of Bruno Hauptman. Think I read he carried a 1911 a lot after that. I sure would if I were him. Poor guy.
 
I live in Pennsylvania and have my place of business in the garden state. I could carry my gun in a locked box and with ammunition seperate both where you can't reach them. I just worry about getting stopped by a cop who does not know the law very well. It's not worth taking a chance losing my PA LTCF.
 
Because the New Jersey State Police is not authorized to provide legal advice to private parties, you may wish to consult with independent legal counsel or conduct your own research.


N.J.A.C. 13:54-1.3 Firearm identification card or permit to purchase required(a)

No person, other than a licensed or registered retail or wholesale dealer, shall receive, purchase
or otherwise acquire a rifle, shotgun or antique cannon, other than an antique rifle or shotgun, unless
that person possesses and exhibits a valid firearms purchaser identification card. No person shall
sell, give, transfer, assign or otherwise dispose of a rifle, shotgun or antique cannon, other than an
antique rifle or shotgun, to a person other than a licensed or registered retail or wholesale dealer
unless the buyer or receiver possesses and exhibits a valid firearms purchaser identification card.

No person shall sell or acquire a sawed-off shotgun.
(b) No person, other than a licensed or registered retail or wholesale dealer shall receive, purchase
or otherwise acquire a handgun unless that person possesses and exhibits a permit to purchase a
handgun. No person shall sell, give, transfer or assign or otherwise dispose of a handgun to a person
other than a licensed or registered retail or wholesale dealer unless the buyer or receiver possesses
and exhibits a valid permit to purchase.

2C has additional areas of concern but the site is down. Failure to have in your possession can make possession more difficult for someone from out of state. Your option is to contact a knowledgable lawyer who is familiar with the subject. local PD's do not get involved with the administrative side and the state will not comment through their Firearm's Unit.

Quite frankly depending on where you will be, the ability to use the firearms might be limited as many of the area ranges are private.
 
I have found a range to go shoot my handgun, not a place to shoot my rifle though. I am an Army OIF veteran and by the time I make the trip may be back in as a National Guards man. So, even if it's private most gun people don't mind letting a vet shoot there.

The place I will be staying is my girlfriends house. She is a firefighter for her town and friends with the cops there.

When I look at the law saying "No person, other than a licensed or registered retail or wholesale dealer shall receive, purchase
or otherwise acquire a handgun or rifle unless..." I kinda almost want to say "I didn't receive, purchase or otherwise acquire it! I always had it. Came out of the womb with it and everything!"

Thanks for the advice everyone. I am still deciding on what I am going to do.
 
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