New Marlin Guide Gun!
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stratus
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Redundant from another thread but not entirely
Mods! You're looking at an XS setup. Will zero on Thursday! Also rubber O-ring and blank dovetail on the way.
By the way removal of the stock rear open sight couldn't be any easier. Flip it up, lift it and push the elevation notches all the way forward, keep lifting and cram some card stock or a few pieces of paper under there. That protects the downward pressure from the sight from marring the barrel. I used a hard plastic punch and the butt of a screwdriver.
Front post
Before I removed the stock sight:
After
Need a blank for now. Will try to find a stainless to add, or I could just leave it until I get a scope mount but I am undecided on this.
And yeah, it's ONE of my bedside guns. The other is a P99 sitting on the other bedside table.
Mods! You're looking at an XS setup. Will zero on Thursday! Also rubber O-ring and blank dovetail on the way.
By the way removal of the stock rear open sight couldn't be any easier. Flip it up, lift it and push the elevation notches all the way forward, keep lifting and cram some card stock or a few pieces of paper under there. That protects the downward pressure from the sight from marring the barrel. I used a hard plastic punch and the butt of a screwdriver.
Front post
Before I removed the stock sight:
After
Need a blank for now. Will try to find a stainless to add, or I could just leave it until I get a scope mount but I am undecided on this.
And yeah, it's ONE of my bedside guns. The other is a P99 sitting on the other bedside table.
jpatterson
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I would really appreciate it if you guys would stop posting pictures of your sweet lever-actions. It is very tempting to overdraw my savings account because of you.
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On a more serious note, beautiful rifle you have there Stratus, I envy you (if you couldn't tell!)
- Concerned Gun Owner
On a more serious note, beautiful rifle you have there Stratus, I envy you (if you couldn't tell!)Stratus
I have a new cheap mod. Mask of your front sight so only the white band is visible. Paint the band with luminecent paint. I did this with mine and it glows like a mother for about an hour after sundown. For late night you could always charge it with a flashlight.
I have a new cheap mod. Mask of your front sight so only the white band is visible. Paint the band with luminecent paint. I did this with mine and it glows like a mother for about an hour after sundown. For late night you could always charge it with a flashlight.
stratus
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Damn Greg! That's an excellent idea. I can charge it with the M5 on my P99 and bang, I have luminova sights
stratus
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rcmodel, this o-ring is a #36. I also have some #5s. Which is better to use? This is snug but that's what we want I think. And I have 9 more of the #36 size ones and 10 of the #5s because I thought it was a little large. I picked the best two options at Lowe's and went with the one that felt better.
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I just did look at one 45-70 +P load 405 gr. from Grizzly Cartridge which generated a monster ME...3780 ft/lb...basically almost an African game class!!! And it is safe to shoot on a recent Marlin lever.
Amazing how this round was born as BP cartridge generating "only" 1500-1600 ft/lb of energy...I think the 45-70 is the cartridge which "grew up" the most in terms of performance compared to other updated rounds.
Amazing how this round was born as BP cartridge generating "only" 1500-1600 ft/lb of energy...I think the 45-70 is the cartridge which "grew up" the most in terms of performance compared to other updated rounds.
stratus
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Well said.
These guns are some of the easiest, and most rewarding guns to modify. And the GG package gives you the ability to chose from relaitvly modest Remington trapdoor loads to 500 grain solids capable of taking Rancors. I am THIS close to picking up another blued one and making the following mods....
1. Cut barrel to 16.25
2. Brockman's sights.
3. Cut stock back an inch or so.
This would be a nice Kiss brush gun to keep my full house GG company.
1. Cut barrel to 16.25
2. Brockman's sights.
3. Cut stock back an inch or so.
This would be a nice Kiss brush gun to keep my full house GG company.
medicine calf
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These Guide Gun setups are nice. I can understand the utility of the 45-70 for bear and pig hunting, but for what other purposes are shooters using these rifles?
stratus
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medicine calf said:
Understand that the loads and grain sizes vary greatly, and the 1895G can handle all of them, though I suggest you run a dry patch through the barrel before going hunting/to the range/whatever if you are going to shoot super hot and heavy loads. The gun can take these loads. Over and over and over. They will continue to take these loads when your grandkids are born if the firearm is well-kept and if your handloading skills are adequate (I have no such skills, but will be getting into it to save $$$$).
Rancors. It wouldn't surprise me. 2 or 3 well-placed shots with the load Greg mentioned would be far more efficient than killing a Rancor by way of a heavy gate. It's funny he alluded to Return of the Jedi because ever since I touched a lever gun, I found it to be "an elegant weapon of a more civilized age"... flashback to episode IV.Greg Bell said:
As for the Guide gun, its versatility in handling all manner of loads is virtually unmatched, and for the general size and handiness of the weapon its power is completely unmatched. I personally find chopping the barrel one of those en vogue things people feel the urge to do with their guide guns. Sure, they make them a little handier, but I prefer the extra length because frankly the ballistic curve of the .45-70 needs all the help it can get. Your regular stainless guide gun has an overall length of ~36.5 inches, which I find to be more than sufficiently handy. Furthermore, you will have a slightly longer sight radius. The late Jeff Cooper advocated a maximum barrel length of 39 inches for the rifle to be considered handy, and I'm not willing to part with mine just to chop the barrel. If I get a shorter lever gun, it will be in .45LC. Now that's a handy general-purpose rifle, but the bottom line is that I find my Marlin to be handy enough. Not bad for the most versatile big-bore cartridge ever made (IMHO).
I have handled a special edition of this gun which was priced about $100 over the standard 1895G with about a 16.25 barrel and tritium sights - the long red post through the front and green tritium canisters in the rear. Seemed like a waste, since tritium open sights in broad daylight are grossly inferior to a ghost ring aperture. Any person that has experience with ghost rings knows that they only need to keep their eye on the front sight, it is a faster system with equal or better accuracy, and not at all unmanageable in low light. Greg's idea of a glow-in-the-dark front post seems like a great cheap mod. I am going to give it a shot.
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fireman 9731
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I'm in love....
SwampWolf
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I agree completely and would even add that I find the slightly longer barrel makes for a slightly better handling gun in terms of its "pointability".
Gator 23
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rcmodel, great idea with the o-ring, and thanks Stratus for posting the o-ring size. Looks like you got it set up with the #36. I'll be adding this solution to my lever guns. Can remember seeing a hunting show with Ted Nugent and his brother during a bear hunt in ---Alaska I believe. Ted's brother had a 45-70 and took aim on a nice bear....and the safety messed him up and cost him that bear. The o-ring would have saved that mishap!
Hey guys,
I just heard that Stratus passed away a few weeks back. His name was John Pierson and he was a really neat guy. Smart as hell, could play the guitar like the Devil himself, and was pretty much good at everything he tried. Rest in peace Johnny.
I just heard that Stratus passed away a few weeks back. His name was John Pierson and he was a really neat guy. Smart as hell, could play the guitar like the Devil himself, and was pretty much good at everything he tried. Rest in peace Johnny.
waterhouse
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Terrible news. Condolences and prayers . . .
Is that his picture in the first post?
Is that his picture in the first post?
Rob96
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Wow! He was a young guy. What the hell happened????
salvo
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That is sad, he was way to young to go.
My condolences are with his family and friends.
My condolences are with his family and friends.
Bula
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that's just horrible. My thoughts and prayers are with those that Stratus has left behind. RIP.
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