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PITBULL

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this year will be my first time deer hunting.so i need to know what is the best place to shoot a deer? from what i hear the best place is the heart behind the front sholder. and i herd the neck is a good place to. what do yall think?
can yall post a pic of where to shoot? that would be great.
i'll be shooting a marlin 336 30-30 with a bsa bigcat 2-7-42mm scope.
oh yeah what's a good bullet to ues like what brand what point and what grain?
 
Welcome New Hunter

When I used that same rifle and caliber, I carried 170 Gr. flat-points for good penetration. Take shots at the spine if you can (accuracy issues of course). Deer hit with a heart/lung shot almost always run after being hit. If you're unconcerned for mounting the antlers (meat hunter) take a head shot. The absolute paramount concern will be placement. How accurate are you and your rifle? Aim small; miss small. God bless, good luck and be safe. Bag a buck, not a fellow hunter. Let us know how your first season goes.

Doc2005
 
what is the best place to shoot a deer?

Right next to your truck. Saves a lot of dragging.

Just kidding.

Seriously though, I usually shoot them through the front shoulders. It breaks them down and they tend not to run far, if at all.

from what i hear the best place is the heart behind the front sholder.

This works. But I've had a heart-shot deer run 100 yards on me before. Damndest thing, really.
 
Good advice so far. Aim for the front shoulders or a hair behind. Depends on the shooting angle to the deer you are shooting. If you break the front shoulders and the 30-30 is prefectly capable at doing that, the deer goes down. A pure heart lung shot with no major bones broken means you will be tracking that deer a bit. If the deer goes down and gets back up, shoot again. Be prepared to do some tracking. I take a roll of reflective plastic surveyors flagging with me and mark the trail about every 10 feet. Really helps if the deer stops bleeding or if you loose the trail. (Remove the flagging when done.) Enjoy the hunt and let us know how it goes!
 
Mr Weebles said:
Right next to your truck. Saves a lot of dragging.
Now that is a statement from an experienced deer hunter. :cool:

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I like neck shots when I can take them, but failing that, I go for the shoulders. I'm a little too worried about busting the antlers to be attracted by a head shot.

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Please save the pinpoint shots for paper and varmints.When using field improvised rests the just behind the shoulder shots are the ones worth waiting for. A proper lung shot should bleed well and if the hit is behind the shoulder blade it will minimize meat damage. The animal will rarely go past 100 yds with clean lung shot with gun or bow.I like to imagine a paper plate centered just behind the vertical line of the front leg and centered horizontily on the body.If you can keep your shots in this area you will make clean kills and waste little meat. If you study the anatomy of big game animals you will see that this offers the largest clean kill zone on the animal.Were fractions of an inch on other recomended target areas can cause maiming and lost animals none of which the hunting community needs.
 
My experience with lung shots is 50 Yd run .For broadside shots line up scope vertical with front leg , horizontal about mid body .That will take out the lungs. If you're a bit high you hit the spine, a bit low the heart, a bit forward you hit shoulder bone a bit back you hit liver - all will do damage !! Don't expect a "drop right there" that's hard to do unless you hit brain or spine. If you shoot ALWAYS search for blood etc ,it may be dead a short distance away.
 
I hunt with a 30-06 with 180 grain bullets and a good heart or lung shot always does the job. i've never had a deer make it more than 30 yards before dropping. i've even hit a small buck once and it immediately knocked it over and it never moved again, instant kill. Granted i hunt in some pretty thick stuff so i've never shot at a deer further than 50 yards out because i can see any further than that.
 
Go with the Heart/Lung Area

Pitbull,

Lots of good advice here, I'll add my .02...

For your first deer, or first few deer, I'd definitely recommend the heart-lung area. It's the biggest target, and a shot placed here will kill a deer, although it may run a short ways before dying.

While there's nothing wrong with spine or head shots, thoses are smaller targets, and you're apt to be a little excited when taking a bead on your first one - we've all been there, it's a normal part of hunting - so you may be breathing a little faster than you were at the range. Save the tougher shots, for a few years down the road when you've gotten accustomed to how your body reacts in the moments before you shoot.

As for the .30-30, it's great deer rifle, 150 or 170 grain softnose will do the job! I shot two deer with a .30-30, both in the heart-lung area, neither went more than 30 yards.

One other factor to consider - if the deer is totally oblivious to you being there when you shoot, there's a higher chance of a drop-dead shot (although this varies). If the deer is a little nervous/suspicious, some adrenalin will be flowing in its veins, and it will be more likely to run a ways before falling.

Practice, be safe, and good luck! Welcome to the world of hunting.

Michael
 
To me a behind the leg shot is the way to go with a 30-30. I've been shooting
a marlin 336 in 30-30 since i was 6 years old and every deer that i have shot ran about 30 to 35 yards and then dropped. p.s. don't shoot hollow points i shot a deer last year useing winchester 150gr. hollow points and it was a perfect shoulder shot except the bullet disintergraded and never made an exit
hole.It took me 3 hours to find it and ran about 150 yards without a blood trail and that aint easy in brush so thick a dog willnot go through it.Now i know not to use hollow points form experience now all i use is winchester 170gr. silver tips.
 
When there's a lot of moon, like right now, deer move mostly at night. The regular pattern, otherwise, is movement at dawn to sunup and then beddie-bye until around mid-day. They get up, pee, stretch, look around, and then usually go back to bed. They then start moving a little before sundown.

Usually.

Mid-day, I like to ease along through brushy land or forest, very slowly. Move quiet, sneaky-snaking until I find a good spot to stand and watch, or sit and watch edges of clearings. Every now and then, Ol' Bucky comes along, checking his turf.

In hilly country, it's common for "real" bucks to bed down just below a crest on the downwind side. That way, they can smell anything bad that's coming from behind them. They'll be somewhere near a saddle in the ridgeline. If you ease along the ridge, into the wind or crosswind, you have a half a chance of kicking bucky out of bed. This all depends on visibility, of course. The tendency of the buck is to run upwind and uphill, since they trust their noses much more than eyes'n'ears.

Not all deer have read my book, "What Deer Do".

Older bucks do learn; they ain't stoopid. Some old mossyhorns will figure out that a home base where people don't hunt is a Good Thing. That place is as likely to be a patch of brush right behind a farmer's barn as anywhere else. Or even a clump of trees/brush in the middle of a field, only coming out at night.

Art
 
I've only been hunting for a few years, but put me down for the heart-lung shot. The head or neck is trickier and I've shot/seen several deer drop in their tracks from a solid heart-lung shot.
 
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