Next cartridge to become obsolete?

[Model520Fan]

I think that the 5.5mm Velo Dog is about to be put to sleep. I thought it would be revived when Charlie Askins used it for centerfire pistol one year in the Nationals, but the next year, they raised the minimum caliber for centerfire. Barring an explosion in the dog population coincident with a drastic change in the demographics of the bicycling population, I think that the Velo Dog is pretty much on its last legs.

 

[Smith & Wesson Man]

My vote would be the 45gap. The next would be 357sig. Two that I don't want because I have and enjoy shooting is 41 magnum and 10mm.

 

[Leif]

Wasn't .45GAP more stillborn or failed to thrive than obsolete?

To me, "obsolete" implies an older item replaced by a more recent one that renders its predecessor superfluous and antique.

 

[Seancass]

.22LR. i just dont see this caliber going anywhere.

this is interesting to read. tells me not to buy any of these calibers.

 

[kennyboy]

Wake up and smell the coffee people. The .17HMR, although pricy is extremely popular. It is here to stay. Ruger, Remington, Winchester, Savage, CZ, Sako, etc., etc., etc. all have rifles chambered in .17HMR. It is a cool little round that can do a lot of damage at a long range for a rimfire.
The WSMs are also extremely popoular. They are difficult to find because they are sold out. I guess it is because they are fairly new and people are buying guns in WSM. As for the WSSMs, I do not know.

 

[BigG]

Did anyone mention .357 SIG?

 

[pete f]

All of the STW cartridges, good riddence, I saw one that had 100 rounds of factory thru it with a bore that looked like dried mud, so much erosion it would start stripping jacket material after 3 shots.

The 250 and 300 savage are sticking around becuase there are a million rifles out there still killing deer. will not be sales leaders, but they do kill deer.

The WSSM. they errode barrels almost as fast as the STW's.

The 8 mm Rem mag. DEAD

357 maximum. dead

I hate to say it, but unless something happens, I would venture that in five years there will be no standard chamberings in 7mm08 and 280 rem.

45 gap, just not looking too healthy

41 action express

10mm

32 special and 35 rem. 307 and 357 winchester, 358 winchester
no one is chambering them anymore.

The 284 as a 284, dead. living well, 6x 284 and the 6.5 x284

6..6 grendel

the 6.8 SPC


The super mags, RSUM and the RUM lines just do not do anything not done before.

 

[georgeduz]

i hope the 9mm will be next

 

[Quaamik]

The next? Hmmmmmm that's a tough one.

Much as I hate to admit it, .450 SMC is dead. One might consider it stillborn, as virtually no firearms were made for it. Ditto the .40 Super.

On life support:
.38 Casull (only one pistol offered)
.400 CorBon (only conversion kits, ammo from one manufacturer)
.41 AE (do they still make pistols in this? were they ever popular?)
.45 Super (only conversion kits, ammo name is trademarked)
.460 Roland (only conversion kits. Is ammo available?)
6.8 SPC (one pistol and two AR varients, but where can you get ammo)
.475 Wildey (one pistol line only ever chambered in it, ammo from one source)


Too early to tell:
.17 Mach 2
.50 GI
.50 Special

The .45 GAP isn't going away anytime soon. It's been picked up by three manufacturers in 4 pistols. Glock, Springfield (in both 1911 and XD) and now Para either are or have offered it. I expect you will see at least one, possibly two other manufacturers offer micro sized pistols in it in the next 2 years.

 

[surfinUSA]

10mm could make a comeback. 10mm is one FBI massacre away from acceptance. If the .40S&W fails to stop some drugged up psychopath, and the blame game begins on cartridge once again, what do you go to?

When that happened the 9mm was really just becoming popular with police departments and bullet developement wasn't what it is today. The 40 is a well established killer available in many good and proven loadings. Any failures will be seen as the anomolies they are, just like failures with the 45.

The 10mm is a great round that is destined to be just like the 41 magnum having a dedicated following that will keep it alive the same with the 44 special. Both the 10mm and 41 were destined to fail in police work, not because of their recoil, but because of the size and weight of the guns they are chambered in. Even if recoil isn't normally an issue, it becomes one if the gun is too large to get a proper grip.

 

[gp911]

Carcano, anyone..?


gp911

 

[Inner Monkey]

Sadly I think the 10mm is short for this world.

 

[Shootcraps]

Sadly I think the 10mm is short for this world.

Save your tears. People have been saying that for almost 20 years and it ain't happened yet. We have more guns and more ammo today than ever before for The Ten.

 

[Shootcraps]

The .45 GAP isn't going away anytime soon. It's been picked up by three manufacturers in 4 pistols. Glock, Springfield (in both 1911 and XD) and now Para either are or have offered it. I expect you will see at least one, possibly two other manufacturers offer micro sized pistols in it in the next 2 years.

You're a little late. Springfield announced at the Shot Show that they were putting the 1911 45Gap project on the back burner indefinitely.

You can't micro size it more than any of the current 45ACPs because it's still the same width.

 

[Eleven Mike]

I think the next cartridges to go obsolete will be .30-06, .30-30, .223 Remington, .308 Winchester, 7.62 x 39, .22 LR, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, 9x19, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP.

Oh, yeah, and 12 and 20 guage. Those are getting pretty scarce.

 

[Offwhite]

I'm sure someone has already mentioned it (I'm at work so there's not a lot of time to read through everything) but the .45 GAP. Springfield has stopped making the guns cambered in it...thats all I need to know.

 

[panzermk2]

Taurus just launched a hole line of new 10mm wheel guns.
“Reports of My Demise Are Greatly Exaggerated”.

 

[lbmii]

A 10 mm revolver sounds interesting. I wonder if you could fire the 40 s&w in it as well. I looked on the Taurus web site and I cannot find it.

Do you have a site for it?

 

[grendelbane]

The 357 SIG is not going away any time soon. There are several good reasons for this. The number one reason is that there are many guns out there chambered for 357 SIG, or capable of being chambered for 357 SIG with a simple barrel change.

The number 2 reason is common availability of components. The 357 SIG can be loaded with many, (but not all), 9mm bullets. The brass is similar to .40 S&W, so it is simple for manufacturers to keep it in production.

You may not like this cartridge, and may see no possible need for it. Enough others disagree with you to keep it on the market as long as conventional pistol ammunition is used.

For similar reasons, even the 9x23mm Winchester is going to be around a long, long, long time.

 

[aerod1]

I don't think the 500 S&W magnum will ever be a big seller.

 

[Blacklabman]

The 10mm seems to be growing in popularity. Atleast on the local scene.
It's the most versatile caliber, you are going to find in a semiauto. Many people with baby hands, who at one time complained about grip size, have figured out that this is the 21st Century. Grip reductions, are day surgery now.
The 10mm and .357Sig will be with us for sometime to come.
The .45GAP, I'm not so sure about.

 

[Zak Smith]

re: 260 REM

Many "practical" long range bolt rifles are being built in this caliber now. Based on the 308 case, it is compatible with the reliable detachable box magazines and works fine in short actions. For the 308 case, it has a small enough bore area to drive high BC ( > 0.60 ) bullets at good velocity. Neither 7-08 nor 308 can do that. In the short action and without going to the WSMs, nothing else is close except the 243 WIN shooting 115gr VLD bullets (which is a barrel burner).

-z

 

[kastiron]

For a first post, I had never thought to find myself in any sort of a claiber debate, but I would like to be the first to defend the .17mach 2. (17hm2)

I will grant that the 17hmr is great for splattering varmints out to 200 yards, but the 17hm2 gets my nod for the caliber of choice for those of us that actually want to eat the small critters we chase with rimfires..

Last year I bought a CZ452 Varmint chambered in the 17hm2 and after sighting it in I had high hopes for it. My first hunt with it proved successful as I encountered a cottaintail at about 90 yards. Much to the surprise of myself and Mr. Bunny, one headshot and a flop was the result. A 17hmr would have made minced meat out of my supper at that range, where the 17hm2 seemed to be "just enough".

Since then, my 22lr's are either safe queens or see range use only.

I see these kinds of threads a lot over on RFC.com, and hope that the mighty midget .17hm2 will be around a long while. Just in case though, I have a stash of way more than expect to ever need hunting.


As far as my thoughts on what might be left aside next, personally my .204 if it doesn't start to impress me soon..

 

[Manedwolf]

You also posted to a thread dead since May.

If you find something via search, always good to check the date of last posting before replying. Prevents gravedigging.

 

[CB900F]

Fella's;

I don't know, this is probably going to be more of a stillborn than obsolete cartridge: .338 Federal.

900F