...no guns in schools, period.

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Unfortunately it is prohibited in Texas. Something I (not we) need to work on. Congrats to Utah and Correia.

PC §46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's
person:
(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued
under Chapter 25, 28, 32, 69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if
the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or
service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as determined
by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section
104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;
(2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional
sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place, unless
the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used
in the event;
(3) on the premises of a correctional facility;
(4) on the premises of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241,
Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing home licensed
under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the license
holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing home
administration, as appropriate;
(5) in an amusement park; or
(6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established
place of religious worship.

(c) In this section, "institution of higher education," "premises," and
"school" have the meanings assigned by Section 481.134, Health and
Safety Code.

§ 481.134[0]. DRUG-FREE ZONES. (a) In this section:
(1) "Minor" means a person who is younger than 18 years
of age.
(2) "Institution of higher education" means any public
or private technical institute, junior college, senior college or
university, medical or dental unit, or other agency of higher
education as defined by Section 61.003, Education Code.

So my daughter at TEXAS A&M is SOL.
 
Or you could just keep repeating untruths that you know to be untruths, and then get crabby when other people ask you to verify the accuracy of the untruths you keep repeating.
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Pax, ouch. I didn't mean to get crabby. I just didn't have the time to look the stuff up. I don't intentionally post untruths EVER. I'm also not a lawyer. The person who asked for the citation or reference could just as easily stated that x and y state allowed carry which would have cleared that up and I guess I wouldn't have gotten "crabby". If there are states that allow concealed carry of a handgun for people under 21 years of age, great. I stand corrected. I guess I will look them up now for my own further education. Thanks for the links. I had those bookmarked except for the last one.
 
But as far as I am concerned, any gun owner who actually believes in his/her Right of self defense, etc., who is NOT a member of the NRA, is nothing more than a liability to us. Just another leech, riding on the backs of those who fight for them.
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Great. Last week a member here that I otherwise respect told my I was an enemy of his because I subscribe to a version of monotheism that isn't Christianity or Judaism, and now I'm a liability and a leech. God, how I feel loved. :D

I have been a member once. I paid close attention to how the NRA behaved, and decided I'd never again support them. I've chosen to drive 45 minutes to gun ranges so I can shoot at one that doesn't require NRA membership.

Sorry if that disturbs you. Every time they show up on my scope as part of the problem (like trying to undermine the Parker case before it can reach the Supreme Court) I'm glad I'm not contributing to the problem. They do some good too, but don't pretend it's all good in that organization.
 
22-rimfire ~

My apologies. On re-reading, I came across as waaay harsher than I intended. :eek: Didn't mean to jump down your throat!

pax,

pax
 
Well, my project of the night was to research as best I could the age requirements for concealed carry. Yes, it took hours. Most are 21 years or older. However, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Maine, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont, and Texas (only under certain conditions, mostly for military or police), and perhaps Arkansas have the 18 year old minimum. Kansas and Indiana don't sound right, but that is what I dug up. The "may issue" states often don't list an age requirement. I take that to mean generally you better have a pretty good reason for applying. Hawaii essentially allows no concealed carry unless you are law enforcement or military. Could be wrong on this one. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

I made the comment about PA earlier. Handgunlaw site now lists PA as honoring the TN permit. I had called the Attorney General's office and they had informed me that TN was not on the list. From the PA FAQ, here is the reference below.

15) Any person who possesses a valid and lawfully issued license or permit to carry a firearm which has been issued under the laws of another state, regardless of whether a reciprocity agreement exists between the Commonwealth and the state under section 6109(k), provided:
(i) The state provides a reciprocal privilege for individuals licensed to carry firearms under section 6109.
(ii) The Attorney General has determined that the firearm laws of the state are similar to the firearm laws of this Commonwealth.

I know this is off topic, but I just wanted to go through this as I was surprised to learn there are more than a couple states that issue CCW permits at age 18. Sometimes the age requirement is very difficult to find as you have to go to the actual statute rather than a summary.
 
Has anybody gone to the NRA website to see if anything CURRENT has been said about VA Tech? Beyond condolences, of course
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Condolences seems to be what they think is appropriate, and "now is not the time". To quote them.

Boy do I disagree with them on that. Strike while the iron is hot. Now IS the time IMO. Yes we are all sad and sickened over what has happened but the NRA needs take advantage of the attitude I see this bringing out in before very anti circles, and use it to gun rights advantages. Now, not in 6 weeks or 6 months, the pupil's memories are far to short to wait. It seems they have or are so PC worried some one will be offended that they do nothing.

Maybe Nuge should start a side organization that would for sure drop this PC idiocy. I have not been that big of a fan of the guy but he is winning me over.
 
Condolences seems to be what they think is appropriate, and "now is not the time". To quote them.
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Of all the....if NOW isn't the time, when WILL be the time for us to TAKE BACK our ability to defend ourselves?!?!?

Yeah, I defended NRA earlier in this thread, but I also agreed "let's see what they say."

Well, what they say - and what they DON'T say - leaves me nauseated...

And if "now is not the time" then HOW do they justify working with Congress to try to pass another "background check" law against the "mentally ill?
 
Wdlsguy: Yeah, I know the site does now. It didn't last year. Not a site I check out every month. I could go on, but this is totally off topic.
 
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