JR24
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As for polymers, I have been considering an XD-e as a new carry piece.
Please tell me you've at least checked out the CZ P07 before you go this route. Not even much bigger, might even be lighter, and a much better trigger
As for polymers, I have been considering an XD-e as a new carry piece.
Please tell me you've at least checked out the CZ P07 before you go this route. Not even much bigger, might even be lighter, and a much better trigger
Just in the “considering” stage. I’m just wanting the 5906 TSW on the nightstand and the 6906 (or 3913) on my hip to retire to the safe and range fun.
The P07 is not on the list for consideration. Personally, I can’t get past the looks. Life’s too short for ugly trucks, women, or guns. And just my personal opinion, that’s where the P07 belongs. (No offense intended.) But the P01 and the 2075 RAMI are both in the running.
Wyman
I hear you on the Glock, I have a 19 but carry it like once or twice a yr. But I carry an xde 99% of the time. Thin, good amount of rds. w/ 9 rd backup, and I can even ankle carry , easy to rack the slide and has never failed in way. Top it all off it's hammer fired and if your into cocked and locked it's there.I’m with you on the metal hammer fired guns. I’m a fan of the 3rd Gen Smith and Wessons. But I’ll tell you what, that CZ PCR is flat out sexy. That’s going to be added to my “list”.
I owned 1 Glock, a G22, for about 12 years. Shot less than 500 rounds through it in that time. Never carried it, not even once. Traded it to a friend for a Stihl 390 chainsaw and consider it the best trade I ever made.
As for polymers, I have been considering an XD-e as a new carry piece.
Wyman
Fascinating. I find the P07 visually appealing and the XD-E about as attractive as what my dog leaves in my yard, but I do understand wanting a gun that looks good, and beauty is firmly in the eye of the beholder.
One of the reasons I'm a 1911 addict.
To be fair, you're responding to a quote about steel guns and the CZ 75 D has an aluminum frame.Maybe just a bit of hyperbole there? A CZ 75 D only weighs about 6 oz. more than a Glock 19, which is around the same size.
But the guns shown were all COMPACT models -- which is why I mentioned the CZ-75B Compact. None of the "steel" guns he was so happy with were steel.Walt Sherrill said:I don't think the Beretta or SIG offer steel-framed versions of the guns shown, but you CAN get a steel-framed CZ-75B Compact (note the capital "C" model namebannockburn said:I believe you could also get a Beretta 92 with a steel frame with the 92 FS Fusion, the 92/98 Billennium, the 92 FS Centennial, the 92X Competition, and the 92 Steel Vertec. All fine guns with a number of them carrying quite a hefty price tag!
Bannockburn: said:The (BHP) has been so reliable and so accurate that I really don't see any need for anything to be done to it except take it to the range with me every time I go and shoot it!
The 1911 was born from the Colt 1900 in .38 acp. A 9mm in 1911 is no sin. In fact, it's closer to the cartridge JMB intended but the government denied. Anyone who has shot a 9mm 1911 knows it's a pleasure to shoot. People still puff up their chests and say "nope!".A 1911 in 9mm is a mortal sin! Now a pristine Hi-Power is another story!
Not really. Tallball mentioned "pounds of steel", but at least half the guns he talked about in his post had alloy frames. They may all have but he didn't say exactly which models of Tanfo and Turkish CZ knockoffs he had. All the guns in the OP also have alloy frames, so this thread isn't really about all steel guns anyway. Besides, the CZ 75 compact with steel frame still only weighs around 11 oz. more than a Glock 19. Not insignificant, but not "pounds" either.To be fair, you're responding to a quote about steel guns and the CZ 75 D has an aluminum frame.
I really like it!JWF III
The first time I looked at the P07 not long after they were introduced I really didn't care that much for it. Next to it in the display case was a P01 (what I was really looking for), and a P06 (nice like the P01 but didn't want a .40). I thought the trigger guard was a bit too large, the polymer frame a little too flexible, and the checkering on the grip to be way too aggressive.
Fast forward to last year when I was in my LGS just looking around. They had the new SIG P365 but I didn't like the shape of the grip frame and it felt uncomfortable in my hand. Right next to it was a new P07 and I could tell right away CZ had made some improvements to the gun. The polymer frame itself felt much more substantial; the flexing was gone and they had also added three interchangeable backstraps. The trigger in single action mode was great as were the sights. The gun was a natural "pointer" in my hands. Also the overly aggressive checkering was gone and the gun was much more comfortable and ergonomic to hold (overall it reminded me of the grip design of the P01).
After I left the LGS I couldn't stop thinking about how much I liked the new and improved P07 and went back a couple of weeks later and bought it. One thing I didn't learn until after I got the gun home and read the manual was that I could easily change the gun from having a decocker to using a thumb safety so I could carry it in Condition 1.
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JWF III
The first time I looked at the P07 not long after they were introduced I really didn't care that much for it. Next to it in the display case was a P01 (what I was really looking for), and a P06 (nice like the P01 but didn't want a .40). I thought the trigger guard was a bit too large, the polymer frame a little too flexible, and the checkering on the grip to be way too aggressive.
Fast forward to last year when I was in my LGS just looking around. They had the new SIG P365 but I didn't like the shape of the grip frame and it felt uncomfortable in my hand. Right next to it was a new P07 and I could tell right away CZ had made some improvements to the gun. The polymer frame itself felt much more substantial; the flexing was gone and they had also added three interchangeable backstraps. The trigger in single action mode was great as were the sights. The gun was a natural "pointer" in my hands. Also the overly aggressive checkering was gone and the gun was much more comfortable and ergonomic to hold (overall it reminded me of the grip design of the P01).
After I left the LGS I couldn't stop thinking about how much I liked the new and improved P07 and went back a couple of weeks later and bought it. One thing I didn't learn until after I got the gun home and read the manual was that I could easily change the gun from having a decocker to using a thumb safety so I could carry it in Condition 1.
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