No respect/care for relatives guns?

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I was wondering how many of you have seen this sad trend, it's seems to be fairly common. I don't know if it's a cultural, regional think or what but it seems sad and I hope it doesn't happen to me as I don't have children and I do have a small family. Will time maybe?

I have seen and have experienced buying guns from people who have acquired them from a deceased relative. I myself have done so,regretted it a little but they were guns that grandpa owned but never really shot or carried or cared about, kind of like his dress shoes I see it, I didn't keep those either. Now if gramps carried the gun every day as sheriff of some town I'd not get rid of them.

Of the 2 guns I did sell/give away though one went to a family friend and one I got back. What I'm referring to more are guns that were brought back from a war or were important to the life of a deceased relative.

Coworker of my dad has a interesting situation. Gun collecting relative, a WW2 vet, died and left a rather sizeable collection to coworker. Family does not care about guns and only sees it as a source of easy $. The collection is sorted out piece by piece, being cherry picked by relatives as well as their non gun knowledge lets them. I cringe to think what I don't get a crack at but it can't be helped.

I gave the guy some guidelines he does not follow, no Spanish or Chinese guns, no milsurp from non US countries, try to pick up some o/u shotguns and anything Colt, S&W, Browning. Very vague and I'm aware there is good Spanish guns and foreign milsurp but how would you tell someone with zero gun knowledge how to pick out guns from a collection? I told him to call me but I don't know if family will let him while he is picking the guns.

So my dads friend shows up with trash(Ruby .32, Chinese Tokarev with custom grips and triggershoe of all things!) and treasure, S&W 27 and High Standard 22 automatics.

Guy told me to go with him on next round of gun pick out but I feel that is kind of vultuish and I feel the family won't like it. That being said I should show up with a loupe and in a labcoat and green eyeshade and say I'm from Sothebys!

Most of the guns have period customization and were well used but not too abused,the sign of a man who loved guns. Now I'm sure he is spinning in his grave to have his guns being sold out of a trunk of a car!

The guy I got some guns from is not interested in top dollar or consigning them, just wants cash asap to finance getting a new apartment I believe. However my conscious will not allow me to screw him on the guns. I tell him what they are worth and how much he could get if he took the time and how much I'm wiling to give, much less usually but still fair.

One thing that blew me away though is one of the guns, a 1922 Browning had Nazi markings. Guy wanted to destroy gun because the serial# number on the barrel was obscured and renumbered. When I pointed out the frame # is what mattered and the gun had Nazi proofs which might add 25% or so he mentioned the gun was probably his grandpas WW2 bringback but still wanted to sell it and not keep it for a heirloom or for a future great grandchild.

I felt that was wrong but to each his own I guess. I have heard of people selling off WW2 stuff like bringback katanas but I don't think I could bring myself to do this.

As an aside guy gave all the ammo to a gunshop and not to me :cuss: but as much may have been reloaded thats ok I suppose and I'm trying to get any accessories I can use, I did get a free CZ52 mag but nothing else yet. Reloading stuff is possible but pwder was probably poorly stored so I'll pass I think.

Anyways wish me luck everyone and I'd be interested to hear opinions and observations on this. And should I buy the Browning?
 
Buy it!

At least you'll appreciate what it is and what it means.

See if you can talk to some of his family members and get some background history on "grandpa" during the war. Most likely he never said much about WW2, but you never know.

I've bought a few old cars (1930s & 40s) from the decendents and found out some cool things that they remembered about it and their ancestors.
 
I guess I'm an oddity in that I adore collectable firearms and I've owned at least 200 or 300 in the past decade, but I only ever keep a handful at any given time. I love to buy and sell them so I can try something new and learn about it. The thought of selling off a collection doesn't bother me in the slightest. To me, simply holding firearms in a safe somewhere is more disturbing than selling them to new owners. In the case of a family that doesn't know enough to appreciate them--it's no loss at all. Let them sell off grandpa's firearms to folks who know and understand them.

But I guess it's good there are both types of gun nut, or nobody would ever sell a firearm :D
 
The 1922 Browning is a neat little gun. Grab it if you can. I bought one as part of a collection being sold as an estate. The lady, who worked with my wife, wanted to sell her uncle's guns but was afraid they would fall into the wrong hands. We assured her ours were the right hands and we bought them all (8 guns).

My feeling is, if they can't or won't stay with the family that will appreciate them, then they should go to a family that will.
 
I understand the feelings expressed. I say don't fret over it. If you're offered something, take it and say thanks. If theres a price and you can afford it, buy it. Then enjoy the use of it. I was offered the chance at a collection one time. I had two young children and too little money...missed out. Take a realistic look at this situation...and don't miss out!
Mark.
 
Buy them all.

You are NOT stealing somebody's priceless family heirlooms

You ARE rescuing fine firearms from a short-sighted and ignorant fool.

And I DO mean fool with a capital "F."

The "Hey man, like I'm not into the gun thing" excuse does not apply to a WWII trophy that grandpa brought back at the peril of his life.

Anyone who has that little regard for such family treasures is an ignorant, short-sighted fool who deserves to lose them.

Do the right thing. Give those things a good home.

hillbilly
 
+1 for giving them a good home. Offer to help them sell the collection if you can't afford it yourself. Preacherman got a really nice Winchester 1897 that way. :cool:
 
My Uncle, a Texas Oil Man, died about 10 years ago, a confirmed gun nut and collector. He had a very nice collection of over 300 assorted arms.

My Aunt has locked ALL of these up in an unused room in her house, and won't let anyone near them. "They are too dangerous", she says. :banghead: I have offered to create an inventory of them for her, if for nothing else insurance purposes. No dice.

All three of their sons are confirmed, raging, liberal anti-gun blissninnies. They have stated that when their Mom dies, they will turn in all the guns to the police to be destroyed. They won't even discuss selling them -- they are planning on not even touching them (they might get contaminated, don't you know).

This is a collection worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, mind you. Includes fine examples of numerous historically significant arms, like Colt SAA, Trap Doors, Matinis, M1s, etc. etc. etc.

I nearly scream every time I think about this -- but I have talked till I am blue in the face, and none of them will budge. The only hope I have is that the sons are greedy, and that when push comes to shove they won't be able to toss all that money away. I don't care if I get any of these, it is just I can't abide the thought of them DESTROYING so much history. :fire:

Well, like they say, you can pick your friends but not your family.
 
hillbilly got it exactly right . . .

(Hey, Egg . . . tell your aunt the guns are dangerous, and shouldn't even be in the house. Tell her a fellow Texan - yours truly - is willing, at his own expense, to haul them off and make her house safe again. ;) )
 
Don't think I haven't tried that!!!!!!

But I am open to any ideas -- I have to avert this tragedy somehow!
 
My great-granddad had a collection of WW1 and WW2 handguns, basically representing almost all of the sidearms of all the major nations involved...

My granddad sold them all when he died. :banghead:
 
All three of their sons are confirmed, raging, liberal anti-gun blissninnies. They have stated that when their Mom dies, they will turn in all the guns to the police to be destroyed. They won't even discuss selling them
This is why you sell off your collection before you pass on. Or better yet, have them willed to someone or will them to someone who will sell them and donate the money to an RKBA cause. This is my plan.
 
Went through the same thing when my grandfathers passed on. I have Grandpa's .22 short that he carried with him on the tractor as a kid to shoot coyotes. It has a notch in the barrel from where it rested.

Between the two of them, I have both of their service pistols from WWII, three bringback Lugers and the spoon one used in the prison camp resting in a custom case I made myself with gradpa's tools. I consider it a priceless heirloom, wouldn't part with it for anything. Its sad that some people could look at such things and see only monitary value.
 
Just thought I'd share a brief story that this thread reminded me of.

One of my father's employees is a Vietnam veteran. He had a lot of things he carried through the war, but there's one thing that stuck with him the whole time -- his knife. He had hung on to it for a while, but knew that when his time came to leave us on this Earth, no body in his family would be able to appreciate it and it would end up being sold in a yard sale or thrown away or something, so he decided to pass it on to me, the son of his employer, because he knew I'd hold on to it and keep anything from happening to it, as well as being able to respect and appreciate it for what it is, and what it was to him.

Just thought I'd share that :)
 
Too many gunnies in my family, by the time it's my turn to pick, they're all gone.

However, I do occasionally stop a garage and/or estate sales to see if there's anything to see. I just want to give them a good home and add a little to the stories that they tell, before I pass them on......
 
I gave the guy some guidelines he does not follow, no Spanish or Chinese guns, no milsurp from non US countries,

No? You could be missing out.

This is why you sell off your collection before you pass on. Or better yet, have them willed to someone or will them to someone who will sell them and donate the money to an RKBA cause. This is my plan.

That is what my grandpa did. Gave all the kids and grandkids something out of his collection, since he was getting old and not using them anymore. That way, he knew they were going to someone that would use and appreciate them, and since he is still living, gets to see us enjoy them They would still be sitting in his safe, unused if he still had them.

Egg, try getting an apraiser to do the collection for them. Maybe if someone can convince them of the value, or at least of the historical significance, she will change her mind. If not, read over the will, and see if there is any technicalities or such that you can get them on.
 
My neighbor gave me his Remmy Model 41 Targetmaster because it would find a good home and not end up in a pawn shop or something. His kids have no interest. It is a crying shame. Yet another reason to pass on the love of guns and shooting sports in general. I'll haunt my first born come the day he/she sells my Great-great-grandfather's Win mdl 1886!
 
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