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Not good, Maryland's Woollard v. Gallagher is over-turned

Discussion in 'Legal' started by usmarine0352_2005, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Well-Known Member


    This isn't good. This was ruled on today. I guess the next step is SCOTUS?


  2. ATBackPackin

    ATBackPackin Well-Known Member

    So now the Constitution should read, "The right of the people to keep certain arms we deem necessary"?

  3. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Well-Known Member

    Or just, "....the right of the people to keep arms shall not be infringed."

    Just take out the "bear" part.
  4. dmckean44

    dmckean44 Well-Known Member

    As a California resident, I wanted this to go to SCOTUS anyway.
  5. armoredman

    armoredman Well-Known Member

    According to them, the 2A read, "The ability of the people to keep and bear arms shall be determined on a case by case basis according to the needs of the State."
  6. Frank Ettin

    Frank Ettin Moderator

    An expected result. The whole point has been to get the question to SCOTUS.
  7. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Well-Known Member


    I expect they will appeal it to SCOTUS immediately so when do you think this might be decided if they will hear it?
  8. Frank Ettin

    Frank Ettin Moderator

    Sorry, my crystal ball is in the shop.

    Seriously, it's just not the sort of thing that can be predicted with any confidence. But these things do take time.
  9. pseudonymity

    pseudonymity Well-Known Member

    I read it this morning, and it seems that there is quite a bit of overlap with Kachalsky where the SAF has already petitioned SCOTUS for certiorari. If cert is granted for Kachalsky, would it even be needed for Woolard?
  10. Cosmoline

    Cosmoline Well-Known Member

    Sometimes they toss them in the same pot for review.
  11. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Well-Known Member


    There are 2 dissenting circuits on this issue no? And that makes it more likely to get to SCOTUS right?
  12. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Well-Known Member


    Looks like it has to be appealed to again before it could go to SCOTUS. Ugh.
  13. USAF_Vet

    USAF_Vet Well-Known Member

    "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Void where prohibited, some restrictions apply, must be 18 years old to qualify, government employees and their family members exempt from all restrictions."
  14. sonick808

    sonick808 Well-Known Member

    that is completely the opposite of what Heller says. SCOTUS can only overrule that opinion, or succumb to ideology in a 5-4 harbinger of end times. sure hope it's the former
  15. Phatty

    Phatty Well-Known Member

    There was never any doubt when two of the three judges ruling on the case were appointed by Obama and the third judge was appointed by Clinton.
  16. 627PCFan

    627PCFan Well-Known Member

    Irritating and frustrating from an ex-MD'er.
    While I originally was against it, I hope Maryland Shall Issue organizes a long gun OC event (announced) in Annapolis.
  17. Arbo

    Arbo Well-Known Member

    It should go to the SCOTUS next. How can it in any way be constitutional for a government to determine if it's ok for you to defend yourself? This is just so wrong.
  18. Twmaster

    Twmaster Well-Known Member

    And the wheel keeps spinning....

    This is indeed sad news. As a former Marylander I feel for those folks trapped behind enemy lines in the Un-Free State.

    I moved out of MD because of this sort of political silliness and draconian gun laws.

    With the two current, and opposing, appeals court rulings this is going to get interesting or ugly.
  19. mgkdrgn

    mgkdrgn Well-Known Member

    I warned you to "wait for the Fat Lady to sing." The state of MD will fight this down to the last taxpayer dollar and beyond ...
  20. Arbo

    Arbo Well-Known Member

    From a friend in MD:

    2A Supporters packed the State House AGAIN today. No rally. No chanting. Just a silent protest as the House meets to vote on NON-GUN-RELATED bills. Yup...house full of good people when they AREN'T voting on gun legislation.


    Scroll through and check out the pics. I'm actually proud of Maryland today. At the same time, not so proud of some of the Delegates. This is a good thread.

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