Now this is insane: 500 mag snubbie!!!

[TrapperReady]

Will they make a Lady Smith version?

 

[W Turner]

Cut the .500 cartridge down a little, sort of a .500 spl. and you have one heck of a relatively controllable big-bore snubby on your hand. Imagine a .500 gr slug at about 1000 fps. """Shivers"""" sounds good to me.


Mino

 

[La Pistoletta]

Tie a brick under the barrel and recoil/climb will be less.

 

[Balog]

You could also CCW a short barreled shottie in a shoulder rig. I'd personally prefer that.

 

[mustang45]

i got the magazine right here. what's page is it on?

 

[BluesBear]

what were those .577 Nitro Express pistols called anyhow

Howdah

 

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Howdah

Howdy to you too, BluesBear. But what are those pistols called?....



















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[500swmag]

I chronied both barrels during my testing and this is what I found.

Current 8 3/8" (which is 9" when you count the length of the compensator) clocked in with 440gr @ 1620 ft/sec

the prototype 3.125" (which is 4" including the muzzle break)
clocked in with 440gr @ 1420 ft/sec

And in all honesty if you don't mind the full size this 4" is NOT bad to shoot.
BC

 

[John Ross]

Great news, Brett!

Losing only 200 FPS going from 8 3/8" to 3 1/8"? OUTSTANDING!

The backorder list is about to get longer...

What does the gun weigh?

JR

 

[Nightcrawler]

Someone once told a story of firing a .45-70 Pepperbox.

"I don't want to try it. You try it."

How does the .500S&W round compare to the modernized .45-70 hotloads? I understand the pressure is much greater, but I'm more interested in bullet weights and muzzle velocities.

 

[John Ross]

With proper bullet design (long nose and short shank) to take advantage of the 500's 2.300" long cylinder, here's what you can get out of an 8 3/8" revolver:

1950 FPS with a 400 grain cast bullet that has a .200" shank
1725 FPS with a 510 grain cast bullet that has a .300" shank
1300 FPS with a 640 grain cast bullet that has a .625" shank

The above .500 ballistics are slightly better than published data for the 1895 Marlin. Data for Ruger #1s in 45-70 will beat my loads by a little.

You can beat them by a lot in a #1 if you ignore the crimp groove and work up loads with the bullet seated only .200" in the case. No loading manuals do this.

JR

 

[Navy joe]

I still maintain that if I am ever flush enough to buy a .45-70 BFR for no good reason I will get a second for a no gooder reason and cut the barrel to 2-3". Why? Because I can. Haven't decided on a comp yet...

This .500 thingy, might make a nice bear gun, but I can only carry it forth upon my mutant zombie undead bear slaying travels if Smith releases it in a Scandium PD model. Say, does that thing penetrate body armor and lots of fur?

 

[MrPink]

Mustang45,

Sorry, don't have my copy of the Rifleman infront of me. Its in the Great Guns and Gear 2004 article - where they run down each manufacturer and what new goodies they are bringing out.

In addition to a eight shot 327 I mentioned earlier, S&W is also bringing out a scandium frame 1911 Commander.

 

[mustang45]

I found it. It is CRAZY to even think of doing so. Even if the gun doesn't break, the shooter will be torched to death. I think it is a misprint; they probably want to make it a 30 inches or at least 13 inches.



If they do make it, I will buy a used one and just download the rounds.

 

[standingbear]

what were those .577 Nitro Express pistols called anyhow

...bad medicine

 

[Black Snowman]

Out of the snubby thats about 1970 ft-lbs of energy which is more power than the top .30-30 load in Hodgdon's reloading manual. That's what I call potent. True rifle power with a big hole to boot. If you can hit with it and the size and weight don't bug you I'd trust that gun to stop a bad guy or an angry critter.

 

[Sean Smith]

mutant zombie undead bear

Don't you mean mutant zombie undead ninja bears?

 

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Don't you mean mutant zombie undead ninja bears?


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No, he means mutant zombie undead MALL-NINJA bears...

 

[d906670]

I do have and shoot the 45/70 derringer, so I don't think the snubbie would be that bad to shoot.

 

[seeker_two]

I do have and shoot the 45/70 derringer, so I don't think the snubbie would be that bad to shoot.

 

[500swmag]

John,
56oz....
BC

 

[John Ross]

A 56 oz. 500 throwing a 440 grain slug at 1420 FPS with 40 grains powder gives 29.1 FPS recoil velocity. This is the same recoil velocity as:

510 grain at 1600 FPS out of stock 8 3/8" .500
450 grain at 1830 FPS out of stock 8 3/8" .500
240 grain at 1200 FPS out of a 329 Ti/Scan .44 mag.
200 grain at 1075 FPS out of a ti/scan 396 .44 Special
125 grain at 1000 FPS out of a ti/scan 360 .357 snubby

The top two loads in the .500 are doable (not max, but getting there) with long-nose, short-shank cast bullets.

I predict the worst thing about the 3" .500 will be the noise and concussion, not the recoil. Kudos to Bret and S&W for making the comp interchangable with a solid piece with a hole through it.

We'll see soon enough.


JR, the .500 Specialist.

 

[JShirley]

You could also CCW a short barreled shottie in a shoulder rig. I'd personally prefer that

My gawd...must be time for someone to leave for Boot, 'cuz I agree with him, for once.

 

[uglygun]

Serbu micro 12 on a little "whip it" leash? Sounds tasty.....

 

[45R]

maybe you can shoot 500Special through it