(PA) Parents killed in confrontation with daughter's boyfriend

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(PA) Police say parent's confrontation with teen over relationship with their daughter sparked their killings

WARWICK, Pa. -- Police believe Michael Borden's last hour was every father's nightmare.

First came the haunting suspicion that his 14-year-old daughter was involved sexually with an 18-year-old man named David Ludwig. Then came the fear that the girl, Kara, had been with Mr. Ludwig on Saturday night, not with girlfriends as she had claimed.

Kara arrived home about 6 a.m. Sunday. Within an hour, Mr. Borden decided to act. He called Mr. Ludwig and told him they had to talk.

"I think he did what any father would do," Warwick Police Chief Richard F. Garipoli said in an interview yesterday.

Once Mr. Ludwig arrived at the Bordens' home, conversation turned to confrontation. Gunshots echoed through the rich farm country of Warwick. Police found both of Kara Borden's parents dead before 8 a.m.

The Bordens were the first homicide victims in this fast-growing Lancaster County town of 17,000 since January 1997. Detectives say that Mr. Ludwig killed the father first, as he was being escorted to the door. Another of Mr. Borden's daughters, Katelyn, 13, told detectives she witnessed that shooting before running into a bathroom to hide.

Then she heard another shot, apparently the one that killed her mother, Cathryn Lee Borden.

The Lancaster County coroner said the Bordens died of wounds from a .40-caliber pistol.

Both victims were 50 years old. They graduated from high school together in Hannibal, Mo., in 1973, married and had three sons and two daughters.

Chief Garipoli's detectives think they died trying to protect one of their girls.

Mr. Ludwig and Kara were caught Monday about 20 miles west of Indianapolis after a high-speed police pursuit.

He waived an extradition hearing and was flown back yesterday to Lancaster County, where he was arraigned on two counts of homicide and one count each of kidnapping and reckless endangerment. He is being held without bail. A preliminary hearing was scheduled for Nov. 23.

Chief Garipoli said yesterday that he regarded Kara as a victim, not a suspect or collaborator in the killings.

"She is the victim in this case until I hear otherwise," he said.

He said his priority was to see her returned to her siblings and an extended family of aunts and uncles. Even with the onslaught of media attention that has hit Warwick this week, Chief Garipoli said, one aspect of the story may have been overlooked.

"Kara is a 14-year-old child. We tend to forget that," he said.

But the Bordens' worst suspicions about their daughter may have been well-founded.

A friend of Mr. Ludwig's, Samuel P. Lohr, 19, of Lititz in Lancaster County, told police that Kara and Mr. Ludwig were in a relationship of "a sexual nature."

Mr. Lohr's claim is contained in a police search warrant that was filed in a district court. Detectives seized Mr. Ludwig's computers while he was a fugitive. In the process, they discovered that he had loaned his laptop to Mr. Lohr.

When interviewed by police, Mr. Lohr said he knew Kara and Mr. Ludwig were carrying on an affair that had been kept secret from adults, or so they thought.

Mr. Lohr said Kara and Mr. Ludwig often sent flirtatious messages to one another through their computers or cell phones. They also exchanged what police termed "inappropriate images of one another."

Both were in home-schooling programs, but during the last six months they saw each other regularly enough for the Bordens to grow worried. They may have been convinced that their 14-year-old was involved with someone four years older, leading to Mr. Borden's request to see Mr. Ludwig on Sunday.

Police said Mr. Ludwig arrived with weapons, including a knife and a handgun, in his car. He took the handgun into the Bordens' home, apparently concealing it in his pants.

District Attorney Donald Totaro told The Associated Press that because Mr. Ludwig was armed when he entered the home, the killings were premeditated.

Police said they had not interviewed Kara Borden about whether Mr. Ludwig forced her to accompany him on the 600-mile trip across Pennsylvania and Ohio into Indiana. Chief Garipoli said Kara cannot be questioned unless a guardian or attorney is with her.

Still, the four detectives he sent to Indiana found no shortage of evidence. Indiana troopers apprehended Mr. Ludwig after a five-mile chase that reached speeds of 95 mph. They found a handgun in Mr. Ludwig's red Jetta Volkswagen after he hit a tree and finally stopped.

Chief Garipoli characterized Kara as "devastated" when police found her. The trauma of losing her parents and the horror of the chase left her an emotional wreck, he said. She screamed and cried when troopers reached her.

No funeral arrangements have been made for the Bordens.

Warwick and nearby Lititz, a town famous for its pretzel and chocolate factories, have been flooded with reporters from New York, Philadelphia and other parts of the East. Warwick is uncomfortable in the glow of television lights. Many in town complained yesterday that too much had been said about the suspect and not enough about the victims.

Chief Garipoli tried to rectify that. Despite heavy demands on his time, he agreed to a dozen or so one-on-one interviews in the hope of restoring attention on the parents.

The last moments of their lives were both sad and terrifying. They probably never thought a daughter would need protection in Warwick, a place of spacious farms and sprawling new condo developments,

Domestic blowups leading to double murder are rare in any town. Chief Garipoli, who had not had a homicide in four years in office, now has two to investigate.

"I sit here and think, 'My God, how could this happen?' " he said.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05320/607051.stm
 
I sometimes dread the day my little girl becomes a teenager. :(

OTOH, stuff like this is great incentive for me to keep trying to make sure her head's on straight before that time -- it'll be too late if I wait until it's a problem.

Easier said that done, eh?
 
I sometimes dread the day my little girl becomes a teenager.

OTOH, stuff like this is great incentive for me to keep trying to make sure her head's on straight before that time -- it'll be too late if I wait until it's a problem.

Easier said that done, eh?

+1. this story scares the crap outta me. if only she could stay little.
 
talk about a nightmare. I have a 12 month old daughter and shudder to think about such things.

My plan, and the most important thing i think any father can do is build an incredibly close and warm relationship with their daughter and make triple sure that you are spending as much time as necessary with her to maintain that and meet her needs for male attention. I have seen more than a handfull of cases where girls went wacko for the wrong guy just because daddy didnt have enough time or wasnt warm enough with her.

I am not sayin the victim in this case was guilty of any of the above btw.
 
[QUOTEChief Garipoli said yesterday that he regarded Kara as a victim, not a suspect or collaborator in the killings.][/QUOTE]


Not sure I would agree with this she was part of the overall "problem" no matter how they spin it. In most cases 14 year old girls are more mature then 18 year boys. Just an opinion of an oldguy who has raised kids and very happy they are grown.
 
wingman said:
Not sure I would agree with this she was part of the overall "problem" no matter how they spin it. In most cases 14 year old girls are more mature then 18 year boys.

+1

Biologically, females reach sexual maturity by 14-16, males by 20-22. The law is trying to reflect psychological maturity instead, and yet even at 18 or 21 there are no guarantees. So, early bloomers end up generating problems such as the above, as well as get fools in trouble over statutary rape.

girls went wacko for the wrong guy just because daddy didnt have enough time or wasnt warm enough with her

+1

As girls grow, they experience increasing desire for validation and attention from a male, generally the father. That relationship would be decisive for the type and quality of romantic relationships later. That is also one of the main reasons mothers and daughters butt heads - they are instinctively fighting for the favor of the father. Isn't homo sapiens a fascinating species?
 
To those that have young daughters- I survived raising two girls who are now in their very early 30's- it ain't easy but it can be kind of fun- nah, it's a nightmare! :) - if at an early age you have given them a basic sense of right and wrong, a set of rules that are not too strict but certainly not too lienient, the knowledge that they are loved, and mix in with a dash of vigilent trust, you'll mostly be ok- they are a delight when they are little, but then they change into young women overnight and the "evil ones" (boys) start to show up- I would often be cleaning or just fiddling with one of my guns when one of these undesirables would come in to pick up one of my girls for a date- add in the fatherly stare and it was relatively easy to intimidate them- for the less intimidated ones I would mention, only with my girls out of the room, that I too was once a teenager, usually picked girls to date for physical attraction reasons, and knew exactly what was running throught his mind, and that any untoward actions on his part would probably get me prison time but that I didn't care because I had been there before- not really but he didn't have to know that- my girls helped out by not bringing any weirdos home and are both now married to men whom I both enjoy and respect- Oh yeah, one other thing you need is lots and lots of luck- :what:
 
As a teen, my daughter (a very strong-willed teen; is there any other kind?), persisted in becoming friendly with an older teen. As an ex-cop (every teen's nightmare parent!), I smelled a rat the first time I encountered him.

I asked some discreet questions of some old comrades, and discovered (surprise!!) the lad had served a couple of stints in the juvenile correctional facility. I advised my daughter of this, and told her she should break off all contact with him (Note: She was not of dating age, yet, and only encountered him when she & her friends and a group of his friends would meet up at a mall, or other public place).

She got upset, told me she knew of the situation, and he was (of course) a "victim of circumstance," and a really nice guy. Strange; when I met him, it wasn't my "nice guy" alarm that sounded...:confused:

Oh, well ... I kept an eye on things and didn't panic, figuring she'd outgrow him in short order, as a fickle teenager is wont to do. Sure enough, she became friendly with a classmate. He came by the house after school (my wife or I would be home, naturally) to study for an upcoming test. I chatted with him; no alarms (other than "teenaged boy in house with my teenaged daughter" alarms, that is); seems to be OK.

Phone rings; daughter answers (most calls were for her, anyway). Heard her speaking, then she called, "Daddy"! I stepped into the dining room, where they were studying at the table, and she advised me "Bad Boy" had just called and said he didn't want her speaking to other boys (seemed to know about her guest). When she said she had decided she didn't want to "hang around" with "Bad Boy" anymore, he threatened her. She mentioned that I might have some input if he tried to hurt her, he replied he had a friend who would handle me.

No problem; like I said, a couple of phone calls and I learned his uncle's address and phone number, where the lad currently resided ( apparently his parents had had enough of him, too). I called Uncle, and had a nice, friendly chat. I mentioned that, as guardian, he was accountable for nephew, and that I would CERTAINLY hold him personally accountable should I be forced to expend any costly cartridges because of nephew's stupidity.

Uncle seemed genuinely distressed. Never heard from nephew again. Daughter became genuinely interested in the Old Man's judgment of her new friends. Also took up handgunning, on a casual basis (whereas she had no prior interest).

All's well that ends well . . .
 
One of those posts that leaves you with the feeling that there are some parents left who will get involved and try to prevent an unpleasant situation. However; I believe I would keep my ear to the ground, at least for a while, for any info regarding "Bad Boy." These cretins are unpredictable, but I'm sure there's no need to tell you that. Regards
 
Turkey Creek said:
To those that have young daughters-......

I have two girls and a boy. One is 9 the other is 11....

I am surprised nobody asked how the guy got the gun...... I bet the anti gun people are going to say something about that...
 
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