Paranoid about my gun...

[harmon rabb]

700 rounds without a malfunction and you're worried? uh, sounds like your gun works just fine.

my sig 226 at the exeter plant and works fine. has gone a few thousand rounds with ONE stovepipe. was the stovepipe my fault? no idea. might have been.

 

[BullfrogKen]

It is irrational. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.


If you want the gun to stay in "as-new-in-the-box" condition, leave it in the box. You're going to get usage marks on it just like any other tool will. That's part of mastering the tool.

When I see a gun in someone's hands that has sweat-stained friction tape on the front strap, holster wear on all the high edges, and nicks all along the magazine well . . . .

I have a pretty good idea he knows how to use it.

 

[sigarms228]

The P226 is a world class pistol. I have a couple myself old carbon slide and new Stainless slide. Just love them and a total joy to shoot being my favorite.

Just lube it well (frame is usually alloy and slide is steel) and shoot it and it will last dang near forever though be sure to change recoil spring every 5000 rounds.

I have several SIGs old and new and they have all been 100 percent.

The talk about SIG QC IMO is WAY overblown mostly perpetuated by a half a dozen or so forum members over at the sometimes seems to be the I Hate SIG forum that jump on every post when someone has any type of problem going on and on about how crappy SIGs are instead of trying to be helpful. I don't know what their agenda is. Maybe they had a problem with a SIG of theirs one time and are now on a one man crusade to bring SIG down.

 

[SwampWolf]

I don't know what their agenda is.

Me either. What you say is absolutely true. And some of those members also frequent THR, bringing with them the same SIG hate torch. I've been a member of the "I Hate SIG" forum for several years and I've never understood the contempt many of those members have for new SIG pistols. They're slavishly cultish about Old World SIGs and worship any stamped slide bearing the mark of Germany. They hate Kimber's old boss (now SIG's new boss) and despise anything SIG does to accomodate the shooting public's expressed wants in a new pistol, be it extended beavertails, colored frames, light/sight rails and, oh, let's not forget the horror of the internal extractor. They just can't seem to help themselves. I'm only surprised that they haven't climbed on board this thread yet. Yet.

 

[Chem Geek]

I think alot of the QC issues people bring up about SIG are overblown. I'm sure that there has been an increase in problem with new guns recently, but I still think that's a miniscule portion of the actual number of guns produced. And from what it seems, most of the problem are in reference to the finish quality of new guns (talking alloy framed ones classics, not the 238/250/290).

If it works, it works. 700 rounds with no malfunctions? Graet, keep going. If you clean and maintain it you'll probably hit 5000+ without malfunctions that can't be traced back to cheap ammo.

If it doesn't have scratches now, the only way it will get them is if you put them in it. It's not going to start doing a voodoo dance on your table and scratch itself cause it's gone bad. Likewise it's not going to just fall into pieces one day.

 

[ny32182]

It comes from old Sig fans who don't fit with the company's new direction. Sig used to make/import all-business products that were all about "go" rather than "show"; when the Kimber guy took over, they went in the opposite direction as you can see in the product line today. From the perspective of someone who was an old Sig fan, what they are doing today is taking what was one of the best, no-BS pistols on the market (say, the 226), adding gimmick cosmetic stuff, reducing the QC, making it "tactical, dark, elite, equinox", etc, jacking the price up $300, and trying to sell it as the latest and greatest innovation. They may not be bad pistols; they are just not built and marketed the same way today as they once were. Old-school fans call it a decline.

 

[CapnMac]

Since we already have thread drift:

You can't have your cake and eat it, too.

You certainly can do so.

What you cannot do is eat the cake and still have the cake too.
(You will be hard pressed to find any who think any cake you "give back" after eating is "value added" pr "value neutral.")

But, there appear to be legions who could care less about this; as they find it "six of one; a dozen of the other."

 

[MJ_ATL]

Pancakesx,

First stop going over to the main Sig Sauer pistol forum and reading the post about quality, it'll make you nuts. If the gun works everytime and is accurate it will stay that way (provided you maintain it). I (and others here) have several Sigs and I shoot about 1000 rounds a month through which ever gun I'm using in competition. My P229 has over 8,000 rounds with the only failure being light strikes on some ammo that has harder primers. I replaced the mainspring (because after 8K rounds it was worn out) and all went back to functioning perfectly.

I switched to a P226 for IDPA competition and it has not once had a failure during a match (it is sitting at about 5000 rounds). You'll be fine, they're great guns and if it does have an issue they will take care of it (provided you didn't do any sketchy home gunsmithing). Sigs will last for more rounds than most will shoot them provided you clean them, keep them lubricated, and do some routine maintenance. At some point you'll need to find a Sig certified gunsmith or send it in to Sig for a good cleaning and spring replacement but any gun will require that if shot enough.

Go buy more ammo and shoot it some more...

 

[StrutStopper]

This is a confidence issue you will likely never get over. To you, this gun is useless. I recommend that you ship it to me to take it off of your hands and you will immediately feel better. When you lose confidence in its replacement, you'll know where to ship it.

 

[sigarms228]

Perhaps some of you guys can put my mind to ease? Just how much abuse can these guns typically take without becoming basically unserviceable? I clean it every time I shoot it and lube it where it is recommended I do so. I also grease the rails.

Again, I know I'm paranoid.

I think it was last year a Sig Forum member posted a bunch of pictures of his Navy P226 after 25,000 rounds and it looked GREAT! He also said that the wear he saw fairly early did not get much if any worse. Recently another forum member posted a quote from Todd G. of pistol-training.com fame who said he new of several P226s that had over 100,000 rounds through them and were still going strong.

Hopefully that is good enough for you??

Again a little care is needed as SIGs like to run "wet" with lube especially on the frame rails or with grease as you said you are using and some maintenance including recoil spring changes at around 5000 which is VERY important maintenance.

When I get to 20,000 rounds with any of my SIGS, if i ever do, I will send it to SIG for their very reasonably priced maintenance package as the pins in the slide should be replaced about then on stainless steel slide SIGs. The older classic carbon steel slide SIGs need those change more often - maybe at 5000 rounds? Though I hear that is easy to do unlike the ones in the stainless steel slide SIGs that can be a real bear to get out.

Now enjoy that P226 of yours and quit worrying. Most problems with a SIG or any pistol will show up within the first couple hundred rounds or so.

 

[Skylerbone]

Don't worry needlessly over it if it's working. Maintain it, then fix it when it does break. Never abuse it.

 

[Mike1234567]

Just buy an ugly beat up pistol that's reliable and shoot the hell out of it... then buy another... rinse, repeat... rinse, repeat..... you'll soon be "conditioned" enough to shed your unhealthy coat of paranoya.

 

[vellocet]

Sell the sig and use the money for two cz-82s. They come pre-scratched, and all-steel guns are less likely to explode and disfigure your face. Just a suggestion.