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Pearl Jam concert-goers head to exits after anti-Bush display

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Kinda liked Pearl Jam. Oh well.


http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/music/article/0,1299,DRMN_54_1860334,00.htm

Concert-goers head to exits after anti-Bush display
By Mark Brown, Rocky Mountain News
April 3, 2003

Incensed fans walked out of Pearl Jam's concert Tuesday after lead singer Eddie Vedder impaled a mask of President Bush on a microphone stand, then slammed it to the stage.

Most of Vedder's antiwar remarks earlier in the Pepsi Center show were greeted with mixed cheers and scattered boos. But dozens of angry fans walked out during the encore because of the macabre display with the Bush mask, which he wore for the song Bushleaguer, a Bush- taunting song from the band's latest album, Riot Act.

"When he was sharing his political views in a fairly benign manner - supporting our troops, opposing policy - that's OK," said Keith Zimmerman, of Denver.

"When he takes what looks like the head of George Bush on a stick, then throws it to the stage and stomps on it, that's just unacceptable. I love Pearl Jam, but that was just way over the edge. We literally got up and left."

Others joined Zimmerman, some complaining about the lyrics of Bushleaguer, which in part call Bush "a confidence man" and say, "He's not a leader / he's a Texas leaguer."

"I wasn't sure if it was really happening," said Kim Mueller. "We looked at each other and realized he really did have George Bush's head on a stick and was waving it in the air, then slam-med it to the ground and step-ped on it."

"It was like he decapitated someone in a primal ritual and stuck their head on a stick," Zimmerman said. "It kinda blows away the Dixie Chicks."

The Dixie Chicks were the target of boycotts and bannings after making an anti-Bush statement on a London stage in March. (On Wednesday, the Marshall Tucker Band announced it would play a May 1 concert in Spartanburg, S.C., as an alternative to the U.S. tour-opening show in nearby Greenville by the Dixie Chicks that same day.)

Vedder has used the Bush mask in previous shows in Australia and Japan, but Denver's U.S. tour opener was the first show since war broke out in Iraq.

Pearl Jam manager Kelly Curtis couldn't be reached for comment. The Seattle band plays Oklahoma City tonight.

Before Do the Evolution, Vedder told the crowd the tale of a Vietnam vet who expressed severe reservations about war in Iraq to Vedder. The singer was incensed when someone in the crowd yelled, "Shut up!"

"Did someone just say, 'Shut up'? I don't know if you heard about this thing called freedom of speech, man. It's worth thinking about it, because it's going away," Vedder said. "In the last year of being able to use it, we're sure as (expletive) going to use it and I'm not gonna apologize."

Later in the show, he added to that.

"Just to clarify . . . we support the troops," Vedder said to cheers. "Our problem is certainly not with anybody over there doing something that not too many of us would do right now, not for these reasons.

"So to the families and those people who know those folks and are related to those folks and are married to those folks, we send our support. We're just confused on how wanting to bring them back safely all of a sudden becomes nonsupport. We love them, we support them. They're not the ones who make the foreign policy. . . . Let's hope for the best and speak our opinions."

It was after that when Vedder put on the Bush mask and a sparkling silver jacket. He took off the mask, mounted it on the mike stand, then slammed it to the floor.
 
hmmm

Maybe they figuered that since their fan base was different than the Dixie Chicks, they could get away with it.

When will these 'celebrities'(man, I didn't even know Pearl Jam was still together) learn that they are out of touch with the average American, and stop trying to speak for us?
 
I think what is most telling is that fans of such disparate groups are having nearly identical responses.
 
Maybe they figuered that since their fan base was different than the Dixie Chicks, they could get away with it.
That was my thought at first, though it could just be that Vedder doesn't care. I seriously doubt it will hurt their sales figures significantly.

When will these 'celebrities'(man, I didn't even know Pearl Jam was still together) learn that they are out of touch with the average American, and stop trying to speak for us?
Not sure it's a matter of trying to speak for us, so much as preach at us. Most people, given some kind of bully pulpit, will use it without a moment's thought. Just look at talk radio, and the morons who call in to express their "expert" opinions on subjects about which they know damn-all. Take some high school dropout who sweeps out restrooms at a truckstop and give him 60 seconds of air time and suddenly he's Alan Greenspan, Napoleon and Stephen Hawking all rolled into one. Or, in this case, give some guy who makes a living packaging so-called "alternative" music (which it hasn't been since Kurt Blowbrains signed his record deal) a microphone, and suddenly he knows what's best for the entire world.

(And yeah, my generation wasn't much different. But of course, we were right. *Self-deprecating laugh* )

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Vedder is a self tortured soul who is against everything and anything that has to do with capitalism and the so called establishment. I remember trying to buy tickets to see Pearl Jam years ago when they tired to sell tickets without Ticketmaster, it was a major fiasco, all because they wanted a surcharge on the tickets. I personally think Vedder is about his music and not about the money. His music is for the most part excellent but I dont agree with his politcal views nor do I care to hear them.
 
Vedder is an idiot.
He is against anyone who is more success than he is.
If you have more money than he does... he doesn't like you.
Note: He doesn't have that much money.


Pearl Jam sucks. The first album was pretty good... but that dropped off really quick.
 
Vedder has ALWAYS been erratic and cracked in the head. This is a case where nobody has a reason to expect any different. He's just sort of twitchy and anti-everything.

And I agree that Pearl Jam sucked after "Ten," they just got musically boring and more pretentious over time until they became unbearable. Soundgarden were way better. :neener:
 
Not to advocate lawbreaking or anything, but the advent of online MP3 trading and the CD burner make it possible to appreciate the music of such groups without supporting their extremist political agenda.

;)

This could be accurately referred to as taking a page from the lefty's playbook.

Remember, Eddie, its all about the music anyway, right? You don't want to be boring and corporate. This will just help you towards that noble goal. :D

Mike
 
I have been a big Pearl Jam since high school. I even stayed a fan after hearing what a big pro-choice activist Vedder is, but this little incident was unforgivable. In my mind, he went beyond simply expressing his view against the war, he symbolically killed and mutilated the President on-stage. Pearl Jam, like the French, are dead to me.
 
Who cares what he thinks.

Celebrities and musicians are typically dysfunctional people who make a living pretending to be someone or something they are not. Why does the general public even listen to them? They can't run their own lives why should they be allowed preach to us?

The 1st Amendment does not give them the right to preach political views when people have paid money to hear them sing and play guitars in a private venue.
 
Hmm.

If, say, Bonz from Stuck Mojo had lit up a fatty on stage with a burning picture of ex-Prez Clinton, would we be hearing the same cries of outrage from the Conservative set?* :D

Not that I like being put in the position of defending Eddie Veder, who is a world-class tool (and a pathetic excuse for a rock musician, which is even worse,) but I suspect that there's a bit of inconsistency in the response.

- Chris

* - Aside from the whole smokin'-weed thing. Boy, even then, that would have been a cool image...
 
"Did someone just say, 'Shut up'? I don't know if you heard about this thing called freedom of speech, man. It's worth thinking about it, because it's going away," Vedder said.
Poor guy. He must have thought people went to the concert to hear his opinions. :rolleyes:
 
I'll be real curious to see what kind of reception they get in OKC. Maybe they never heard of the song "Okie from Muskogee". There's more than a few good-old-boy, red-neck, patriots down there. They might even get their "Pearls" jammed where they'll have to be surgically removed. :D
 
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