Oh absolutely. I can see them pulling the handgun portion of HR45 out leaving a registration and licensing for magazine fed semi auto rifles.
You're right, they know they are in trouble.
Pelosi Pledges Compromise on Assault Weapons Ban
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Oh absolutely. I can see them pulling the handgun portion of HR45 out leaving a registration and licensing for magazine fed semi auto rifles.
You're right, they know they are in trouble.
"During an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America," Pelosi said that the Congress will work to find some middle ground between the previous ban, which expired in 2004, and the precedent laid by the Supreme Court in a ruling enumerating more concrete gunowners' rights last term."
My question is, WHY?
My question is, WHY?
First, propose the most restrictive gun ban and registration law possible (HR45), then later, loosen up some those restrictions so that it would actually pass. Add a few public mass shootings to build public support. That's the gun grabbers idea of a compromise.
And where's the numbers indicating how many murders were prevented thanks to firearms in the lasth month? Not even overall crime prevented, just those who were in imminent danger of serious bodily harm.
More than 39,000 people were killed in automobiles last year in this country. Why isn't someone talking about a vehicle ban?
That has always been the hardest part, since you cannot prove with 100% certainty how many people did NOT die due to firearms.
Though we all know its true, that should not be the basis of the debate, simply a nice by-product of armed citizens.
The framework is there for us. We need to be vigilant in proselyting gun ownership as a civil liberty. Civil liberties are natural rights, bestowed by natural law, not by the magistrates of our land.
It's rather strange. I could have an old SKS that shoots the 7.62 x 39 mm round, and they're perfectly fine with that. But if I put an AK-103 chambered in the same round and maintains the same semi-automatic function on top of the table, "Oooohhh no, we've gotta ban all of those." Truth is, the two weapons will function nearly the same, and shoot the same cartridge at similar velocities. The only reason why gun-grabbin' politicians are so anal about these so-called "assault weapons" is because the "mind-threatening", bold looks that they possess. These liberals and Democrats are so ignorant that they don't even understand the fact that the functions of the two different weapons are nearly or exactly the same.
And then again, I must say, it was either Dianne Feinstein or Nancy Pelosi on live TV at the state capitol in Sacramento, California, up on the "stage" in front of all of the people in front of her. Well guess what, she was "demonstrating" an AK-47, mounted with a 75-round drum, pointing it at the audience as she discussed the so called "terrible assault weapons". What a degenerate, I shall say.
An Assault Weapon or an Assault Rifle is a Fully Automatic Rifle or weapon which possesses certain parts, such as high capacity magazines and barrel shrouds. Without the select fire capability, the weapon is just a semi-automatic rifle, nothing more. Now, they need to get that into their stubborn heads.
And then again, I must say, it was either Dianne Feinstein or Nancy Pelosi on live TV at the state capitol in Sacramento, California, up on the "stage" in front of all of the people in front of her. Well guess what, she was "demonstrating" an AK-47, mounted with a 75-round drum, pointing it at the audience as she discussed the so called "terrible assault weapons". What a degenerate, I shall say.
An Assault Weapon or an Assault Rifle is a Fully Automatic Rifle or weapon which possesses certain parts, such as high capacity magazines and barrel shrouds. Without the select fire capability, the weapon is just a semi-automatic rifle, nothing more. Now, they need to get that into their stubborn heads.
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It looks like we need another multi-Dem letter directed to another anti-2A liberal.
It is quite simple to find these politicians' websites and email them.
I just did. Anyone else fire off a warning shot yet?
It is quite simple to find these politicians' websites and email them.
I just did. Anyone else fire off a warning shot yet?
It's ridiculous.
How can someone propose something, have a debate, or an intelligent conversation about anything without knowing and acknowledging both the negatives and positives?
Why don't they go after the 1st amendment instead? I'm sure that 95% of all homicides are a result of people being able to say whatever they want and someone else not liking it.
A semi auto can have a barrel shroud and high capacity magazine if you wanted it to.
Here is how I always thought it to be
Machine gun-Full auto firearm that shoots rifle rounds
Submachinegun-Full auto firearm that shoots pistol rounds
Assault Rifle-Select fire firearm that shoots either.
Am I close?
Here is how I always thought it to be
Machine gun-Full auto firearm that shoots rifle rounds
Submachinegun-Full auto firearm that shoots pistol rounds
Assault Rifle-Select fire firearm that shoots either.
Am I close?
She said that they've attached a "draconian" gun bill to the voting rights bill for Washington, Da Capital. What's draconian about letting people exercise ALL of their civil rights Nancy P? She talks about the bill being about civil rights (to vote) then turns right around and says that protecting the civil rights of those very same people to keep and bear arms is "draconian".
Also, notice she didn't mention gun "control", but rather gun "safety". This word game must have been poll tested on Democrats. We've seen it before. Think about AGS, Americans for Gun Safety. This was sold to us being a bunch of gun owners who were only concerned about gun safety, but was really a who's who of anti gun socialists. Watch the weasel words they use to try and get something, anything, passed. They have to keep their radicals on the left on the reservation, while trying to keep the cattle in the middle (the Blue Dogs) within the corral.
They took control of congress by almost eliminating ANY talk regarding gun control. The media gave Obama a complete pass on discussing his past positions on gun control. Can they turn that tactic around now? We'll have to see. Pelosi looked really uncomfortable in that interview when the talk of gun control came up. Still, they didn't press her very hard. Swap Nancy for Wayne LaPierre in that interview and imagine how hard they would have questioned him.
Also, notice she didn't mention gun "control", but rather gun "safety". This word game must have been poll tested on Democrats. We've seen it before. Think about AGS, Americans for Gun Safety. This was sold to us being a bunch of gun owners who were only concerned about gun safety, but was really a who's who of anti gun socialists. Watch the weasel words they use to try and get something, anything, passed. They have to keep their radicals on the left on the reservation, while trying to keep the cattle in the middle (the Blue Dogs) within the corral.
They took control of congress by almost eliminating ANY talk regarding gun control. The media gave Obama a complete pass on discussing his past positions on gun control. Can they turn that tactic around now? We'll have to see. Pelosi looked really uncomfortable in that interview when the talk of gun control came up. Still, they didn't press her very hard. Swap Nancy for Wayne LaPierre in that interview and imagine how hard they would have questioned him.
Ah yes, the precident Heller laid. The AWB would be a federal law, not a state law. Now that it is clear we have an individual RKBA, the 2A was written as a constraint on the federal gov't. Last time around that wasn't clear. This time it is.
At this point there doesn't actually appear to be one.
Holder ran his mouth off and Pelosi spanked him for it.
No new legislation is pending. All this did was confirm what many have suspected all along about Holder and possibly his boss.
Personally I think it's over for now, always keeping an eye out for
Holder ran his mouth off and Pelosi spanked him for it.
No new legislation is pending. All this did was confirm what many have suspected all along about Holder and possibly his boss.
Personally I think it's over for now, always keeping an eye out for
How is Canada's gun registration working out? I haven't heard much about it lately. I know it cost over a $billion dollars to implement and that they've only had about 70% compliance. Violent crime in Toronto has been on the rise according to their mayor. He now wants a complete ban on handguns across Canada. So, is the registration program reducing violent crime as they promised it would? Any folks from our neighbor to the north lurking in here?
What is the gun rights provision?
What is a compromise?
That pretty much sums up my sense of Democratic politics. It assumes that you actually need the legislation in the first place. The compromise would likely be to just re-enstate the same language as in the 94 AWB which was useless from a crime perspective, but made gun owners angry.
The term "Assault Rifle" was first coined in WWII by the Germans, who developed weapons such as the MP44 and FG42 which were considered to be the first assault rifles. The FG42 was not considered to be an assault rifle in later times because of the amount of recoil of the weapon when being fired in full auto.
So yes, yeah, it is a "made-up term." But we all use it, to describe fully automatic, select-fire weapons with the traits that I have listed above.
"Speaking of Pelosi, I'm not sure how she got re-elected. Nationwide, her job approval rating is in the single digits!!!"
Representatives don't get elected in a National election. As long as a majority of the folks in her district want her back, it wouldn't matter if her national approval ratings were at 1%.
Now, that might prompt the Democrats to push for a new Speaker, but that's "inside baseball," and doesn't have anything to do directly with national elections.
Representatives don't get elected in a National election. As long as a majority of the folks in her district want her back, it wouldn't matter if her national approval ratings were at 1%.
Now, that might prompt the Democrats to push for a new Speaker, but that's "inside baseball," and doesn't have anything to do directly with national elections.
Not really.
They coined the term "storm gun" or "storm rifle" depending on how you want to translate "Gewehr".
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I don't compromise on my constitutional rights. My 2A has already been compromised enough over the past 2 centuries. No more compromise.
Sounds like typical Pelosi-vulture crap to me.
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Sounds like typical Pelosi-vulture crap to me.
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WRT Pelosi getting elected... This is her district, and the only place where she needs to win an election. It's the only place she ever has won an election AFAIK.
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