pistol caliber rifles/carbines

[OLDE RETIRED COASTIE]

what do ya'll think of pistol caliber rifles/carbines? I have three of them. A Henry Golden Boy 22, a Rossi R 92, stainless 16 inch barrel, 38 special/357 mag and a Rossi R 92, stainless 45 colt/454 casull.
They shoot great

 

[Wildfan99]

I had a couple of Hi-Point carbines.
A .45 and a 9mm.
My kids loved shooting them!

 

[Larry in wyoming]

I have a bad case of the hot running wants for a lever action in 45 colt

 

[adcoch1]

I think the biggest advantage to most pistol caliber carbines is the low stress shooting experience. I mean, you aren't looking for benchrest precision, so you can just enjoy turning money into noise for the most part. I have had 9mm, 357, and 44 mag pcc's in the past, all have been overwhelming fun to shoot. I had to sell off a bunch a few years back, and the pcc bunch is what I'm looking at replacing first. Just fun stuff to use at the range or close range hunting.

 

[jmr40]

Does a Ruger 10/22 count?

I had a Marlin lever gun in 44 mag for years. Paid under $200 for it but when lever gun prices went crazy sold it for $600. It might bring $1000 today. I liked it well enough, but they say everyone has a price. I didn't like it that much. Unlike 22's, 44 mag is expensive to shoot and I found it to be either too powerful, or not powerful enough for my needs.

A couple of months ago I picked up a Smith 9mm carbine and put a dot sight on it. I'm really liking it, The gun folds in half and at only16" long fits in a small pack. It comes with a soft sided case, but that also included all accessorties and paper work. It's just bigger than it needs to be.

It's cheap to shoot and from the 16" barrel hits a little harder than from a 4" pistol and is surprisingly accurate. Close to 2" groups at 100 yards. I'd overlooked something like this for years, but so far, I'm liking this one.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/fpc

 

[Alex Clayton]

I have LOVED the idea since before I was old enough to buy a gun. For decades the PCC was kind of the odd man out. Couple decades back they started to take off. Now? Seems everyone makes one and new come out every year. Currently have 5 of them. Love them for both cheap fun and as a home defense gun. A LOT of people seem to love to hate on them. I long ago could see the "war on mags" was coming. So I started only buying PCC's that could use Glock mags and laid in a lifetime supply. If I live long enough to see them take the Semi versions away I will go with a lever. Would really love to see some come out with a pump version which if they do take the semi's I suspect will become far more common and price will drop. The very few made so far are pricey as so few are made.

 

[JTHunter]

what do ya'll think of pistol caliber rifles/carbines? I have three of them. A Henry Golden Boy 22, a Rossi R 92, stainless 16 inch barrel, 38 special/357 mag and a Rossi R 92, stainless 45 colt/454 casull.
They shoot great

Not a Rossi but I have a GP-100 paired with a Marlin 1894, both in .38 Sp./.357.

And, as jmr40 mentioned, I also have a Marlin bolt action, a 10/22, and a Ruger Single Six in .22LR/Mag.
That Single Six does "double duty" as I have another Marlin bolt in .22 Mag and a Keltec PMR-30.

 

[film495]

great practice and the ammo is cheaper

 

[OLDE RETIRED COASTIE]

I have the Henry Golden Boy, 22 and am looking at getting the RUGER SUPER WRANGLER REVOLVER IN 22 LR/22 MAG
and I have that Rossi 38 spec/357 mag , and an older Ruger Security Six 38/357
and a Rossi 45 colt/454 casull paired with an Uberti EL Patron 45 colt and Tauras judge

 

[OLDE RETIRED COASTIE]

Just wish the 454 revolvers were not so expensive

 

[Lo-Profile]

Have a AR pistol in 9mm uses Glock magazines.

 

[earlthegoat2]

I don’t really consider any rimfire cartridge carbines to be PCCs but I suppose they technically fit the definition.

I suppose lever guns invented the concept way back when and I have an 1894 in 44 mag. It is a fun gun to shoot. I also have a PCR….a pistol caliber rifle. A Browning 1885 in 454 Casull.

I am less impressed with PCCs in smaller pistol cartridges like 9mm or 357 though. I don’t see them as any more fun than shooting those cartridges in a handgun. 44, or 454 can be a pretty stout handgun round that can fatigue you quickly but are much more manageable in long gun form. For 9mm, 40, 45, 10mm, and 357, any argument folks make for them being “fun” I will just counter with the handgun being fun too. I suppose if it’s just another excuse to buy another gun though….

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

Marlin Camp Carbines in 9MM and 45 ACP, Marlin 1894c-357, 1894-44 Magnum. All fun guns. Now if I could just find a Marlin 1894 in 41 Magnum.....

 

[Ks5shooter]

I have a few levers in PCC.Most fun is my Berreta CX-4 9mm with a Leupold Gilmore on top.

 

[Reloadron]

I only have one PCC which for me dates back to 1966, my Ruger 44 Carbine. This rifle was my main go to for hunting in W. Virginia and took plenty of whitetail.

Pictured here with a Ruger 10/22.


The 44 pictured in the foreground. Always fun to compare the bore diameters.



First manufactured in 61 the Ruger 44 Carbine preceded the Ruger 10/22. that 44 was among my favorite hunting rifles.

Ron

 

[Space Ghost]

The only PCCs I have are lever guns. I have one each in .357 mag & .44 mag.
They are both Chiappa 1892 Alaskan Take Downs, the .44 mag being stainless, and the .357 being the blacked out version.





I could count my Winchester 94/22, but then again... EVERY .22LR chambered rifle/carbine could be a PCC so that would be cheating... even though the "R" in ".22LR" stands for RIFLE.

 

[Lennyjoe]

Since I can’t afford (or find) an MP10, I want an AR pistol in 10MM so I can suppress it. Other than that I have a Hi-Point 1096 10MM carbine and a Kel-Tec Sub2K. Only pistol caliber ones I own at the moment.

 

[Bronco72]

I have three pcc's
Marlin 44 mag
CMMG 45 acp
10-22

 

[Beck]

I only have one... a 20" barrel Rossi 92 in 38/357 Mag. I have it paired with an old model Taurus 66 357 Mag revolver. I love the concept of having handgun and long gun chambered in the same round, which goes back to the Old West. I plan on getting something to pair with my S&W 9mm. I'll get around to it one of these days.

 

[Speedo66]

I have LOVED the idea since before I was old enough to buy a gun. For decades the PCC was kind of the odd man out. Couple decades back they started to take off. Now? Seems everyone makes one and new come out every year. Currently have 5 of them. Love them for both cheap fun and as a home defense gun. A LOT of people seem to love to hate on them. I long ago could see the "war on mags" was coming. So I started only buying PCC's that could use Glock mags and laid in a lifetime supply. If I live long enough to see them take the Semi versions away I will go with a lever. Would really love to see some come out with a pump version which if they do take the semi's I suspect will become far more common and price will drop. The very few made so far are pricey as so few are made.

I remember there was a company that produced a gun where you put the some parts of a 1911 into it and converted it into a carbine. The idea was you could easily convert it and use the 1911 both ways.

Don’t recall them being very popular at the time.

 

[Beck]

I don’t really consider any rimfire cartridge carbines to be PCCs but I suppose they technically fit the definition.

I suppose lever guns invented the concept way back when and I have an 1894 in 44 mag. It is a fun gun to shoot. I also have a PCR….a pistol caliber rifle. A Browning 1885 in 454 Casull.

I am less impressed with PCCs in smaller pistol cartridges like 9mm or 357 though. I don’t see them as any more fun than shooting those cartridges in a handgun. 44, or 454 can be a pretty stout handgun round that can fatigue you quickly but are much more manageable in long gun form. For 9mm, 40, 45, 10mm, and 357, any argument folks make for them being “fun” I will just counter with the handgun being fun too. I suppose if it’s just another excuse to buy another gun though….

They are fun, but not just fun for me. A 357 Mag 125 JSP leaves the muzzle of my 20" Rossi 92 at roughly 1600 FPS faster than my 4" 357 revolver. It groups well, but no surprise there with the increased sight radius over a handgun. That Rossi with that load will really sting out to 100 yards with decent accuracy.

 

[Beck]

My first PCCs were a Marlin 1894C in 357 Mag and a Korean War era M1 Carbine. I was young and dumb and sold them both to buy some car parts or something for my high school sweetheart. Can't remember which. I don't have that car anymore, nor do I have that girlfriend, but I have no doubt if I had not sold the Marlin and the M1 Carbine, I'd still be shooting them today. Live and learn.

 

[chicharrones]

I don’t really consider any rimfire cartridge carbines to be PCCs . . .

Same here. I mean, .22LR happens to have “rifle” in the name of that particular cartridge.

 

[Beck]

Marlin Camp Carbines in 9MM and 45 ACP, Marlin 1894c-357, 1894-44 Magnum. All fun guns. Now if I could just find a Marlin 1894 in 41 Magnum.....

I've been looking for a 9mm Marlin Camp Carbine to pair with my S&W 915. No other carbines that I know of take S&W 3rd Gen magazines. That and I like wood stocks anyway. It would be a great match.

 

[wanderinwalker]

I don’t really consider any rimfire cartridge carbines to be PCCs but I suppose they technically fit the definition.

I suppose lever guns invented the concept way back when and I have an 1894 in 44 mag. It is a fun gun to shoot. I also have a PCR….a pistol caliber rifle. A Browning 1885 in 454 Casull.

I am less impressed with PCCs in smaller pistol cartridges like 9mm or 357 though. I don’t see them as any more fun than shooting those cartridges in a handgun. 44, or 454 can be a pretty stout handgun round that can fatigue you quickly but are much more manageable in long gun form. For 9mm, 40, 45, 10mm, and 357, any argument folks make for them being “fun” I will just counter with the handgun being fun too. I suppose if it’s just another excuse to buy another gun though….

The 9mm carbines are a lot of fun on steel plates at "long" handgun ranges, and if you get an AR-15 pattern rifle it makes a nice understudy for a 5.56mm while not destroying your steel plates or requiring special ammunition to not destroy your steel plates. Don't forget there's a big difference in shootability and hit potential between a shoulder-fired arm and a one-hand gun. I am a good enough pistol shot to hit a 4" plate at 25 yards more often than not, but it requires "stopping the gun" and focusing on MAKING that shot. The same target with a PCC becomes a game of how fast can I hit it. Fifty yards with a service-size 9mm handgun? Please be a large target with generous time limits. Fifty yards with a PCC? Easy, that's what it's zeroed at, against a 4" target.

I've had a couple of .44 Magnum lever guns in the past, a Marlin 1894PG and a Ruger 96/44. Today I have a couple of 9mm PCCs as they fit my current needs and situation better.

The Colt 9mm Carbine:


And a CZ Scorpion Carbine:


(That grip and right side safety on the CZ have been swapped out for more ergonomic bits. As has the magazine release. And the trigger had to be "upgraded" as well. And the charging handle could really use to be extended. And then...)