Police data base

[ReadyRob]

I'm sure we have some LEO's on THR. Will you answer this question?

_ Are concealed carry permits kept in a police department data base in your state? Do you have access to it?

And for the Joe Private Citizen.

_ Have you ever been asked for you concealed carry permit when you didn't offer the information when dealing with police for any reason?

 

[Rockwell1]

Are concealed carry permits kept in a police department data base in your state?

No

Have you ever been asked for you concealed carry permit when you didn't offer the information when dealing with police for any reason?
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No


There are databases in certain counties in Colorado but no statewide database

 

[Deanimator]

Have you ever been asked for you concealed carry permit when you didn't offer the information when dealing with police for any reason?

Ohio is a "must inform" state, so if you don't inform during an OFFICIAL encounter, you're committing a crime.

The CHL is tied to BMV records, so it comes up in a traffic stop. I haven't been stopped by police since I got my CHL. If stopped, I will inform, and if requested show my CHL WHEN I'M CARRYING, as required by law. I will not inform when not carrying because it's not required. I believe in sticking strictly to the letter of the law.

 

[AirForceShooter]

Florida
No requirement to advise and CCW is NOT tied to the DMV database.

AFS

 

[woad_yurt]

In TN, one's carry permit number is the same as ones driver's license number. I think if a cop checks out your driver's license, your carry permit will pop up, too.

 

[Geezer59]

Ohio is a "must inform" state, so if you don't inform during an OFFICIAL encounter, you're committing a crime.
The CHL is tied to BMV records, so it comes up in a traffic stop. If stopped, I will inform, and if requested show my CHL WHEN I'M CARRYING, as required by law.

Kansas regulations must be similar to Ohio law, except you're not required to inform unless requested by LEO. But the CHL is also tied to DMV records, so ditto on traffic stops. So far all my encounters have been amicable and professional. Lets hope it stays that way.

 

[moooose102]

when i took the cpl class here in michigan, we were told that our permit was tied to the dmv database. and we needed to inform the officer as to it, and whether or not we were carrying. so here in gustoppo michigan, they know!

 

[Wolfebyte]

Texas

Must inform officer.

Data is tied to the TCIC (The Texas version of NCIC, wanted/stolen/missing database.) Not accessible to the average citizen, must be requested by the officer, or part of the standard procedure adopted by the agency.

 

[nitetrane98]

What a hassle it must be for those living in states where the CCW is connected to a car. So if wife and teenaged kids are not licensed they get the third degree when they get pulled over? I suppose it helps with officer safety though. ie somebody might have a gun in this car. But back in the day we were taught that there might be trouble in every car we stop. A "routine traffic stop" was only what you called it after the fact.

 

[Cannonball888]

Florida
No requirement to advise and CCW is NOT tied to the DMV database.

Yes. And I advise that if you are not required to inform in your state that you resist any temptation to do so. An officer was informed by my friend during a traffic stop and he was harassed the whole time.

 

[Geno]

In Michigan we must advise. The LEO will know of your permit before he gets to your car, if it's your car. According to our MCPL instructor, even if one never renews their MCPL, the information would remain in the databases indefinately, advising that we once had an MCPL.

Geno

 

[TexasRifleman]

Are concealed carry permits kept in a police department data base in your state? Do you have access to it?

Yes, there's an LE database of CHL holders here in Texas.
No it's not publicly available. It was for a while but state legislature passed a law limiting access after some moron newspapers talked about publishing it.

Have you ever been asked for you concealed carry permit when you didn't offer the information when dealing with police for any reason?

Nope. But, in Texas I am required to tell LE that I present the permit if the LE asks me for identification. (if I have a gun)

 

[Deanimator]

Yes. And I advise that if you are not required to inform in your state that you resist any temptation to do so. An officer was informed by my friend during a traffic stop and he was harassed the whole time.

A guy from North Carolina informed Fairfax County, Virginia cops when he didn't have to and was falsely arrested on an array of wildly specious charges, including "having hollowpoints" and "crossing state lines with a loaded weapon". He was almost immediately freed by a VA magistrate (the cops tried to keep his gun but failed), and I believe he's now suing Fairfax County, and hopefully the individual officers. That's what "putting the officer at his ease" gets you.

No thanks.

Obey the law, and ONLY the law.

 

[AgentAdam]

In some states like TN its public record. I couldn't tell you if your flagged by LE though.

 

[Hungry Seagull]

Arkansas is good to advice to LEO in person FTF that you have DL and CHL if you are carrying on your person. If in a vehicle, they already know about it once they run your DL.

My local LEO's know that we are a armed house and that's about it. But a database? Only after the ASP ties the CHL to my DL.

 

[SCKimberFan]

A guy from North Carolina informed Fairfax County, Virginia cops when he didn't have to

That is why it pays to familiarize yourself with other states laws when traveling. In NC (as well as SC), you must inform when stopped. I can understand why he did (to comply with NC law), but he learned a lesson (hopefully) the hard way.

 

[Baneblade]

Arizona does keep the information on a database. It shows up on ACIC checks (I believe) but not MVD checks.

When we run someone over the radio the dispatcher will advise if they have a CCW. If we have had an incident with someone we can put notes into our system to show that the person has a CCW, but usually the notes will just state they are known to be armed. This is only if we have had a negative encounter.

You are not required to inform an officer of a firearm in Arizona unless asked. I tell people that ignorance is bliss. There is no way to know if the officer is pro gun or not. Most are, but not all. Unfortunately, there are also officers who are not aware of all the laws pertaining to firearms. Unless the officer asks, keep it to yourself. It only complicates the situation.

To take the question one more step... we do not keep any type of database on firearm owners. Our records will show that you have firearms (or any type of weapon) only after having a negative/violent encounter. There is no specific "firearms" or CCW database for Arizona.

 

[Beatlesfan]

Here in Indiana we don't have to inform the officer unless specifically asked.