Police: Driver Kills Boy Who Threw Egg At Vehicle

[lysander]

...and so here we are...back again...with the same cold and callous responses to what is an obvious tragedy. Replace eggs with bottle rockets and we've seen this as recently as just a few days ago.

Do not defend the actions of this shooter.

Do not make off the cuff comments that indicate a couple of teenagers hurling eggs should be shot.

Do not attribute their deaths to some kind of idiotic social darwinism.

Tragedy...you know...the kind of literature or theater in which characters suffer horrible loss or devastation as a result of their flaws. Art does imitate life...and people do suffer because they are flawed. That doesn't mean someone outside the tragic events should revel in the outcome. Perhaps those who make the callous statements have never been touched by a serious personal loss...

Bear in mind that someone lost a son, a brother, or a friend and another family will be destroyed because the shooter, once found, will go to prison. The moral of the story shouldn't be that "life is tough when you are stupid." The moral of the story should be that rash action delivers rash results and sometimes (nearly always) it is better to simply walk away.

 

[DirtyBrad]

Deserved it?

I guess I'm the only one around here that ever egged or TPed anyone's house when I was a kid.

 

[Rich K]

The kids DID NOT deserve to be shot.They needed to be chewed out,made to clean up the mess .The moron who shot them is just that,a moron.He was gone,but he had to come back and have his last word.I hope they get him and throw the book at him.

 

[KAR120C]

It obviously wasn't a justified shooting. This guy will give us a bad name. He should do time.

Having said that... throwing anything at cars is not a prank , it is assault with possible deadly consequences. Image tooling down the road at 40 mph, minding your own business, the breeze in your hair, when all of the sudden you get hit in the eye with an egg. As it shatters the shell jagged shell penetrates your eye. You lose control of your vehicle, and crash head on into oncomming traffic, or mow over some pedestrians, etc...

I had something similar happen to me, only with a home made explosive, instead of eggs. The response from the cops/911 was less than pathetic. I'm talking keystone cops. Apparently they won't react until someone is actually hurt.

Ocassionally bad things happen to people who pull this kind of crap. These kids chose to take the risk. Personally I'm not going to lose any sleep over them. Note to parents out there... explain to your kids not to f**k with people :banghead: . You'll certainly be making them better citizens, and you just may be saving their lives.

 

[BryanP]

The kid was being stupid. That doesn't justify 1st degree murder, which is what the shooter did. If they catch him he should fry - literally.

 

[Cesiumsponge]

Marion County, Ind., sheriff's deputies said that after the juveniles hit one motorist in the face, the man drove off

Its not completely clear if the motorist hit in the face is the same man who shot the kids judging the way that sentence was constructed.

Things could turn out differently. Assuming the guy was the one who got egged right in the face, he could have lost control of his vehicle and killed someone else or himself, and the kids would likewise be in deep sheet trouble for it.

If the guy never went back for his gun and shot one of them, the kids might continue egging motor vehicles. They might have ended up hitting a driver in the face in control of a cargovan full of girlscouts, resulting in the driver getting in an accident which gets everyone in the 16-passenger van killed. Maybe, the eggers would stop on their own accord.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Looks like karma decided to pick a stiffer consequence for those kids. It's a sad situation any way you put it.

 

[NineseveN]

...and so here we are...back again...with the same cold and callous responses to what is an obvious tragedy. Replace eggs with bottle rockets and we've seen this as recently as just a few days ago.

Whoa nellie, this is a little different. This was, while a potentially dangerous act, not the same. Bottle rockets and fireworks are illegal in a lot of municipalities/cities/states, I don't know any region that bans eggs. The reason why one is illegal and the other is not, is because one, even when used properly can be very dangerous, the other is normally not.

A bottle rocket is an explosive projectile, an egg is a shell-encased embryo. Totally different. These kids, while not deserving the death penalty, should be held VERY accountable for both the vandalism, assault and possibly the death of their friend.

The shooter should go to jail for a very long time, period.

Do not defend the actions of this shooter.

Do not make off the cuff comments that indicate a couple of teenagers hurling eggs should be shot.

I can understand how someone not wrapped too tight would go off like that, people get shot over much less. I don't blame him for being pissed, but to shoot someone, wow...not good.

Do not attribute their deaths to some kind of idiotic social darwinism.

Hard not to, stupid tends to either get you elected to public office or killed. They should have known better. What they did was a crime, period. they endangered the lives of others. Sadly, one of them died because of it.

Tragedy...you know...the kind of literature or theater in which characters suffer horrible loss or devastation as a result of their flaws. Art does imitate life...and people do suffer because they are flawed. That doesn't mean someone outside the tragic events should revel in the outcome. Perhaps those who make the callous statements have never been touched by a serious personal loss...

Bear in mind that someone lost a son, a brother, or a friend and another family will be destroyed because the shooter, once found, will go to prison. The moral of the story shouldn't be that "life is tough when you are stupid." The moral of the story should be that rash action delivers rash results and sometimes (nearly always) it is better to simply walk away.

I think both morals apply. If that somehow makes me callous, even though I think the shooter should never see the light of day, then so be it.

 

[CajunBass]

I had a kid egg my brand new Jeep CJ (I picked it up that very day) once, years ago. My son saw the kid and knew who it was. I went to his house, talked to his mother, and she beat that poor kid so bad I felt sorry for him. I'll bet he never cracked an egg in a fry pan after that.

 

[P95Carry]

Stupid, stupid kids - thoughtless and punk behavior but NOT death warrant stuff.

Sad to see some (as usual) non THR comments and suggestions. Hardly does ''the cause'' a whole lotta good. The driver was an idiot grade 1 and I hope was not a legit CCW.

 

[Mannlicher]

I saw this earlier in the day. Sad that the kid was shot. Sad that his behavior, and that of his homies led to this. Might not be PC, but when you create the possiblilty for extreme reaction, you should not be surprised when it happens.
That having been said, it was really stupid for the motorist to shoot the little miscreant.

I notice also, many of the responders making statements like 'tell their parents, and they will be punished. '
I think this is a case of the parents don't exist, don't care, or would egg the cars themselves. I hardly think this is the first anti social act these hooligans have committed. Probably won't be the last either. Well, it will be the last for one of them.

 

[Cesiumsponge]

Like I mentioned earlier...there are crazies out there and it's best not to provoke them, even if you think it's harmless. What might once be considered harmless fun with consequences being a stiff fist-shaking from the recipient no longer seems to be the norm in today's high-strung society.

I rarely even use the horn on my car anymore if someone cuts me off or tries to be an arsehole. You never know if that guy is a jackalope that forgot his pink pills that morning and tries to run you off the road or shoot out his window.

 

[mongo]

Alex45ACP... I think you need to explain your reply. Are you saying it was justified to shoot the teen because he egged the guys truck? I sure hope it was tongue in cheek, or perhaps in reference to the previous reply about the drunk kid getting chewed out by his dad.
If you are serious about the egger, you need some serious help. Do YOU have kids? How would you feel if some sociopath shot YOUR kid because he threw an egg at his vehicle?
You need to clarify your response ASAP.

 

[Phyphor]

Certainly,

the kids were idiots...but the shooter is an even BIGGER imbecile. THIS sort of crap does nothing but severe damage to our rights to carry firearms. Gun grabbers WILL point to this incident in the weeks / months /years ahead as a shining example as to why "more gun control" is needed.

 

[culleniii]

I have been a teacher and worked with juvenile offenders for 6 years. If you dont think you can shoot a kid then you need to rethink your self defense.
As many crimes-- at least 50% involve juveniles. The two incidents I have been involved with were both juveniles, armed robbery and home invasion. I view them as more dangerous then adult criminals as they dont think about consequences at all.

In this incident hummm-

I think the kids were worm food and pretty much wont amount to anything good in there life anyhoo. Good kids dont hang out at an overpass and hit people with eggs. End of story.

I think they defiently deserved a serious beating---not neccesarily killed but oh well.

Maybe the person that killed them is not a "good guy" ----there are bad guys out there and they dont care if kid or not--play with fire expect to be burned.

Why werent the other kids charged with crimes?

 

[AK-74me]

Whoa nellie, this is a little different. This was, while a potentially dangerous act, not the same. Bottle rockets and fireworks are illegal in a lot of municipalities/cities/states, I don't know any region that bans eggs. The reason why one is illegal and the other is not, is because one, even when used properly can be very dangerous, the other is normally not.

Thats right and the only thing the guy in the bottle rocket case was guilty of was chasing a kid ( who happen to run in traffic but....), this case is totally different. Come on going and getting a gun and coming back and then shooting egg throwers? That is a bit different in my book then stopping your car and chasing the little punk who just shot you with a bottle rocket.

 

[spacemanspiff]

and if a driver didnt know what was hitting the vehicle, swerved, and died in a crash, or hit someone else who then died, wouldnt we be stringing these kids up wanting to charge them with criminally negligent homicide?

not saying the shooter was in the right, but they should have known better.

i also object to the egg-hurler being described as a 'boy'. juvenile delinquent is more applicable than 'poor innocent boy who was a straight a student on the honor role and played quarterback on the high school football team and selflessly spent 300 hours a month doing community service and donated 25 gallons of blood each week.'

 

[Ivy Mike]

kids will be kids.

In a perfect world, they wouldn't have thrown any eggs.
In a not so perfect world, they would have been caught and held responsible for damages.
In our world, the guy grabbed a gun and shot two people.

he should go to prison for a long time.

 

[mmike87]

We reap what we sow.

 

[JohnKSa]

James Patterson was one of the boys involved in the egg-throwing incident. ...he just shot a minor over some eggs," Patterson said."

All the children I've known talk this way... It it just me or does it sound like this kid knows his way around legalese just a little too well?

The kids were stupid and engaged in criminal behavior.
The parents should have controlled their kids better.
The shooter is an idiot and a criminal.

As usual there's more than enough blame to go around.

Shooting someone for egging a car--even a moving car is way over the top and if they catch the guy, they should fry him. It's premeditated murder and he deserves to die for his crime. Furthermore, the shooter is a dangerous person--I have to doubt that this is the very first time he's ever done something violent.

Still, a very tiny little part of me hopes they don't catch him...

 

[NavyDoc]

I'm an M.D.
In the E.D. I once had to deal with a mom (27 years old) and her daughter (18 months old) killed (I declaired both DOA) when mom lost controll of their car after some punk ass decided it would be fun to throw ???? onto traffic from a highway overpass.
I've NO sympathy for idiots that do this. Sorry.

 

[NineseveN]

Yeah Doc, I'm not saying I feel bad for the kid, Darwin works in pretty obvious ways, but the shooter was a complete tool and needs to go down too. Everyone's guilty in this scenario.

 

[Stevie-Ray]

I'm surprised I survived my childhood actually when I see this...

Hahahahahaha! Same here!

 

[NavyDoc]

I'm not saying the shooter was right (not a justifyable use of deadly force = murder). I'm saying that I have no sympathy for the egg thrower either.

 

[XLMiguel]

Darwin 2, dumb kids 0.

There was as similar incident a couple of weeks ago, (don't recall where, maybe Philly?) where similar aged kids were throwing eggs, hit a car with a couple of twenty-somethings in it. They went around the block and came back to chase the kids and give 'em a whoopin'. One guy caught a one of the kids, while the driver chased the other. In the course of the pursuit, the other kid ran into traffic to get away and was hit & killed. The guy doing the chasing is being charged with manslaughter, IIRC.

Point is, some pranks that the pranksters think are more or less harmless can go seriously wrong, even deadly seriously wrong. Some people can't take a joke. While I agree that stupidity shoud be painful, it shouldn't be deadly, but sometimes it is. The butt-much with a gun deserves to have his head handed to him, the guy that chased the kid into traffic, well, he didn't do that on purpose. But life ain't fair, four lives ruined, and the little punks shouldn't have been out throwing eggs in the first place. Some parenting needed in both cases.

 

[NineseveN]

Mike, you sure that wasn' the Bottle Rocket story? We had a healthy debate on that once just recently, unless the same thing happened to some kids throwing eggs too.