Police officer killed with elephant gun.

[jobu07]

Laval police Chief Jean-Pierre Gariepy said the weapon that killed Gignac was a .338-calibre rifle, which can drop a target from a kilometre away.

Hmmm... The metric version of anti .50 cal news coverage?

 

[Henry Bowman]

why was there no restraining order?!!

And that would have helped . . . how?


On another note, I have been able to keep my property completely elephant free for years using nothing more than a .22 short. Now, what round for a Democrat?

 

[boofus]

The murderer was a paroled convict according to some reports. They let a criminal out and he commits a capital crime and it's the fault of the gun, the gun manufacturer and the United States.

Piss on Canada. There is no way that country is the same one that helped storm Normandy Beach in 1944.

 

[rick_reno]

from http://www.kukuzans.co.za/ba_elephant-hunting.htm

hunting tips - the calibre
The minimum is the .375 Magnum which is a legal requirement in many countries. Most hunters prefer something heavier starting from .416 or .458 Magnum upwards with heavier double rifles being the best choice.

 

[Zundfolge]

OMG! The .338 Lapua is now the "weapon of choice of gang bangers!"


Next we'll see them runnin' round the hood with 4 bore double rifles!

 

[Sulaco]

Would she be any less dead if he had used an axe?

 

[boofus]

She would be less dead if the criminal stayed behind bars where he belonged instead of being 'rehabilitated' and then let loose.

 

[Mr_Moore]

.338

While I was looking up .338 rifles...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1525557/posts

This link reports on 3 terrorists taken out by 3 head shots from .338 rifles which can shoot up to "1000" yards. They state that the .338 is the most powerful rifle in use by the army.

 

[mete]

The Brits use the 338 Lapua for sniper work. The Montreal incident was most likely a 338 Win.Neither is a proper elephant gun. The perp had been restricted to NO GUNS ,but applied for and was given permission to have a gun during hunting season !!! A dangerous man 11 months of the year but a nice guy 1 month of the year !!!

 

[The Real Hawkeye]

The majority of elephant killed, for quite some time now, have fallen to full auto bursts from AK's, wielded by poachers. They simply perforate one lung, wait for vultures to show them where the dead critter is. Blood loss and aspiration of blood into the un-perforated lung suffice to lay the critter low. Since you are not eating the meat anyway, why worry about the 338 not being "proper"? Do you mean "legal"?

No, he means appropriate according to experienced hunters. You see, hunters do not use full auto, and they do not generally shoot from a jeep so as to out run the charging elephant once he is shot with an AK. Pouching is a different story from hunting.

 

[Infidel]

from http://www.kukuzans.co.za/ba_elephant-hunting.htm

hunting tips - the calibre
The minimum is the .375 Magnum which is a legal requirement in many countries. Most hunters prefer something heavier starting from .416 or .458 Magnum upwards with heavier double rifles being the best choice.

If they'd had those laws (or that "wisdom") back in the early 1900s, then there might be more elephants today. W.D.M. "Karamojo" Bell killed a whole heckuva lot of them with his favorite cartridge, the 7x57mm Mauser. He didn't have full auto or a Jeep, either.

And Glenn Bartley still got it right.

 

[Lebben-B]

Prayers out to the family of the fallen officer.

I can't comment of the whole "elephant gun" emphasis of the story, since I've never hunted elephant. But I will say that the Brits aren't the only ones using .338 Lap Mag. Some of the "Special" people here and in Afghanistan use them on occasion.

Mike

 

[Rockstar]

Gawd help out silly ninny neighbors to the North. Subjects they were; subjects they'll always be.

 

[MachIVshooter]

Just curious, is it possible this was a 338 *Lapua*?

*That* really is a viable Elephant gun, right?

The .338 Lapua is ballistically identicle to the .338 RUM. While it certainly could be used for elephant, most would opt for something with significantly heavier bullets. ft/lbs of energy are only part of the equation with such large game. The importance of frontal diameter of the bullet is not to be understated. I personally would go with a .416 Rigby or .458 Lott.

On that note, there was a hunter in the first half of the 20th (can't remember his name) who favored the 6.5 Carcano and head shots on pachyderms.

The part of the story that got me was "powerful enough to stop an elephant". That would have to be a 155mm HE round or so, certainly nothing shoulder fired.

 

[Smythe77]

Of interest he actually had two hunting rifles. No one knows where he obtained them. Previously he was deprived of his six hunting rifles that were sold & money back to him, from a local gun shop.

All of this just around 9+ days after the PM Martin, in looking for votes, has said the Liberals will Ban Handguns, we are soon to have an election, thing is that is just part of what they want & that is to join the UK, Ireland, Ireland, Turkey & so many other counties for it to be BAN GUNS. If long bbl gun people cannot read the writing on the wall then it is a pity they cannot read.

 

[backphil]

. . . They'' blame it on the evil GUN when it's the stupid officials who let him have a gun despite a ban and a history of harassing cops !

mete . . . close, but no cigar. Try again. Go back and read/re-read Glenn Barkley's succinct assesment of the anti-gunowner biased article, then re-think your position.