Price check on 1911A1 Remington Rand

[DorGunR]

Just came from my favorite gun store and was shown a 1911A1 Remington Rand stamped "Property of US Army", finish is about 40%, no rust or dings, it was packed away since the 1960's, they just took this pistol in and hadn't cleaned it up or priced it yet.
Any idea what this Pistol should sell for? I might want to buy it.

 

[Roadkill]

They aren't cheap anymore. Check out the listings on Auctionarms and Gunbroker. Ususally around $1000-1500 if in good condition. If its in decent shape anything less tha $850 would be great.

 

[GreenFurniture]

Anything under a grand is a buy.

 

[Old Fuff]

Before you jump be sure it is truely a Remington-Rand pistol, and not a R-R slide on some other contractor's frame. It is critically important to check the serial number against a list of numbers assigned to R-R, and also look for the inspector's mark "F.J.A." on the frame.

 

[DorGunR]

Gentlemen thank you for your replies and Old Fuff I'll certainly check the SN before I buy..........thank you. I've purchased three 1911A1's and other guns from this gun shop and know the owner personally, they are supposed to call me when its been cleaned and priced.
And Norton if you are reading this the gun store is Scott's.

 

[XavierBreath]

I do not know what the market is, but after searching several years, this one was worth $1200 to me. In the end, you have to decide what the gun is worth to you.

 

[KHawk]

Here's one for $3500.
http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?cPath=156_204&products_id=1379

I went in to see it. It's so clean it may have never been fired.

This shop specializes in Lugers but has a huge selection of quality guns, both old and new.

 

[DorGunR]

XavierBreath, great pics Sir, thank you for sharing those. I want to go back to the gun store today to see if they have cleaned it up and priced it. Question: Should the receiver and slide have matching SN's?

 

[Old Fuff]

Should the receiver and slide have matching SN's?

No. Only the frames were serial numbered. While it didn't always work, USGI pistols were made so that all parts, made by any contractor, would interchange without fitting. During earlier, pre-war times Colt would number the slide to the frame, often stamped under the firing pin stop.

Slides (and only slides) were marked with the contractor's name. The only way to be (hopefully) sure the frame matches the slide is to check the serial number on the frame, to see if it is within a block of numbers assigned to the contractor named on the slide. Also that in this case (Remington Rand) the inspector's mark "F.J.A." is stamped on the frame.

Even so, this is not always certain. Colt made some pistols using serial numbers assigned to both Remington Rand and Ithaca. These have to be identified on a case-by-case basis.

 

[DorGunR]

Old Fuff, thank you for that info........seems to get more and more complicated.

 

[Old Fuff]

Well you have to remember there was a war on, and a big one. Things in the way of pistol production didn't always happen like they were supposed to.

Then matters were complicated more after 1945 when Uncle Sam stopped buying new pistols. Thereafter the older ones were rebuilt if they were deemed to be unserviceable. The frames were retained if they were sound, but everything else could be, and sometimes was replaced. Thus the slide on a particular gun didn't necessarily mean that that was the company that made the frame - or for that matter, other parts.

The big $$$$ you see only apply to a pistol that is 100 percent original, and because of all the rebuilding that went on those can be hard to find. On too many occasions I have seen someone spend big bucks, only to discover later that they have a hybrid.

Mis-matched guns are not necessarily bad, as some of them are collectables in their own right. But before you lay down any money you'd better be sure about exactly what you are buying.

 

[DorGunR]

All the questions that I asked about the Remington Rand might be for naught. I was just on the phone with the gun store owner and he might keep the gun for himself because it's in such good shape. I'll just have to wait and see.

 

[wvgunner]

DorGunR

How did that Remington 1911 deal work out? I didn't see any more thread on it and was curious....I found one in a box where the deceased gentleman purchased it through NRA from Red River Arsenal for $17 in 1964. It's pretty sweet although I haven't disassembled it for thorough inspection. Hope that deal worked out for you. I was nosing your thread to find recent values..

 

[jchuck]

Remington Rand

I have one of these guns--it's in good shape. I had a new set of sites put on it and some work done to it at Clarks Custom Guns in Bossier City, LA. I paid $225.00 for it 12yrs ago. It has the FJA stamp, it's a good gun, my favorite actually. If you can find one I would buy it.

 

[jchuck]

Gun in Box

WVGunner, if you want to sell the one you found that came from the Red River Arsenal let me know. I'm living in TX, but I'll be in Shreveport/Bossier this coming weekend. I would love to see it and possibly buy if you're interested in selling.

 

[MarkH45]

A widow has asked me to value a gun for her. It's a Remington Rand SN13881xx with FJA stamped on it. I'm guessing it's original finish. Very slight small area of surface rust. Haven't taken it apart. What's the high end and low end value if you can say? Thanks.

 

[maskedman504]

Do you want the 2007, 2008 or current value?