Papakeith
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What do you guys/gals do with cartridges that, for whatever reason( upside down primer, bulged brass, doesn't look quite right) you need to dispose of the brass, but don't want the live primer floating around?
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m1911joe
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Take them to the range I work at and put them in the dud box. Or you can
put them in your gun and fire them like I did before. Some will say to spray
them down with WD40. But I have heard were people have tried this and
it did not kill the primer for very long if at all.
put them in your gun and fire them like I did before. Some will say to spray
them down with WD40. But I have heard were people have tried this and
it did not kill the primer for very long if at all.
stans
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Primers are tough. Pull the bullets, dump out the powder then put the empty cartridge in a gun and fire the primer.
You can deprime a live primer whether it is right side up or upside down. Just take it very slow and take extra safety precautions - safety glasses (as always, no matter what), leather glove, face shield if you want to.
Primers need a shock to ignite. A slow push won't do it; that only crushes the priming pellet.
Primers need a shock to ignite. A slow push won't do it; that only crushes the priming pellet.
Papakeith
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I can't chamber the rounds, the cases are buckled
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I can't fire the primer, the primer is in backwards.
Dud box! That sounds like the perfect answer. Many Thanks
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I can't fire the primer, the primer is in backwards.
Dud box! That sounds like the perfect answer. Many Thanks
m1911joe
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Dud box every range should have one. The local LEO's pick ours up once
a year and blow it up.
a year and blow it up.
Smokey Joe
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Bad primer! Baaad, bad primer!
To kill primed cases: Take the case in question, put it in a vise (base upward), then, wearing hand, ear, & eye protection, use a nail set and a hammer to give the primer a very firm rap. A gentle tap won't do it. The case can then be resized in the usual way and its useful life seems IMX to be unaffected.
The primers blow a good bit of flame out beyond the case mouth, and sometimes the primer cup and/or anvil are forcibly ejected upward. So you need to have nothing flammable right below this operation. I find heavy leather work gloves to be quite adequate for hand protection.
That's it. No big deal. I used to kill primers by chambering the cases and pulling trigger, but the above method saves cleaning, and wear & tear, on the guns, as well as working for cases that won't chamber.
To kill primed cases: Take the case in question, put it in a vise (base upward), then, wearing hand, ear, & eye protection, use a nail set and a hammer to give the primer a very firm rap. A gentle tap won't do it. The case can then be resized in the usual way and its useful life seems IMX to be unaffected.
The primers blow a good bit of flame out beyond the case mouth, and sometimes the primer cup and/or anvil are forcibly ejected upward. So you need to have nothing flammable right below this operation. I find heavy leather work gloves to be quite adequate for hand protection.
That's it. No big deal. I used to kill primers by chambering the cases and pulling trigger, but the above method saves cleaning, and wear & tear, on the guns, as well as working for cases that won't chamber.
tomr8368
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I've got an old aluminium pie plate and just keep a layer of oil in it and put the cases down in it for several days or weeks. A local gun range will take them but I like to kill the primers rather than let them sit arould "live".
Funny thing, once I called the police and asked it they would take old black powder or shells, and they said no but the fire dept would. I called the fire dept, and they said they didn't take them, but the police dept would. Decided not to call BATF or FBI.....!!!! I took the powder to a field and burned it (fun thing to do) and oiled up the primers of the shells then threw them away.
Tom
Funny thing, once I called the police and asked it they would take old black powder or shells, and they said no but the fire dept would. I called the fire dept, and they said they didn't take them, but the police dept would. Decided not to call BATF or FBI.....!!!! I took the powder to a field and burned it (fun thing to do) and oiled up the primers of the shells then threw them away.
Tom
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I don't know where this "oil in the case" thing comes from, but modern primers are fully sealed. Even if this weren't the case, the "modern" (past 1950s) pyrotechnic mixture used in primers will still go off even if it's saturated with oil.... old Hg fulminate primers would also still go off with oil in them, but the blackpowder (not modern, real blackpowder) would have a hard time burning.
Just my two cents on a strange "old folklore" type habit.
Just my two cents on a strange "old folklore" type habit.
Smokey Joe
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Bad primers, the final solution
I agree with the last couple of posts. There is no practical way for the "ordinary citizen" to kill primers, except for making them do what they were made to do. See my post above.
The dynamite thing does sound like fun, though!
I agree with the last couple of posts. There is no practical way for the "ordinary citizen" to kill primers, except for making them do what they were made to do. See my post above.
The dynamite thing does sound like fun, though!
tomr8368
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Well, I sure learned something... I'll wipe a couple of them off and try them at the range next time...will let you know if they go bang. I suspect they will....
Tom
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If I understand correctly ...
"Weird" primer in a completely loaded round = I'd just puill the bullet.
The, we're back to a bare case/brass with a "weird" primer.
Stick the brass into your press' shell holder & GENTLY run it through you sizing/decapping die to pop out he "weird" primer.
You should be all set & get to save that piece of brass. Just dump the primer in your everyday garbage - it isn't going to blow up the dump, & frankly, 1/2-full aerosol cans are much more of a hazard than are a single primer.
Only time I've had a primer go off was in a seating operation using one of those old Lee Loaders.
"Weird" primer in a completely loaded round = I'd just puill the bullet.
The, we're back to a bare case/brass with a "weird" primer.
Stick the brass into your press' shell holder & GENTLY run it through you sizing/decapping die to pop out he "weird" primer.
You should be all set & get to save that piece of brass. Just dump the primer in your everyday garbage - it isn't going to blow up the dump, & frankly, 1/2-full aerosol cans are much more of a hazard than are a single primer.
Only time I've had a primer go off was in a seating operation using one of those old Lee Loaders.
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