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Could you clarify? Which syllable is stressed in your version, chalk?
Proper pronunciation of "Garand"
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Boanerges57
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since english is a living language their is technically no incorrect way of pronouncing anything.
Pronunciation and accents drift over time.For anyone who wishes to argue the point they may refer themselves to the oxford english scholars that made this determination.
In several parts of england the same word is pronounced differently yet it is still correct, in several parts of scotland the same can be said. Everyone forgets about wales but the welsh too have their own varying accents.
America is a melting pot of accents and each region has its own home grown collection of accents.
We would all be hard pressed to speak to an englishman from the 10th century and understand all of what he said.
This would also apply to grammar.
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Pronunciation and accents drift over time.For anyone who wishes to argue the point they may refer themselves to the oxford english scholars that made this determination.
In several parts of england the same word is pronounced differently yet it is still correct, in several parts of scotland the same can be said. Everyone forgets about wales but the welsh too have their own varying accents.
America is a melting pot of accents and each region has its own home grown collection of accents.
We would all be hard pressed to speak to an englishman from the 10th century and understand all of what he said.
This would also apply to grammar.
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Devonai
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I served with one SFC Garand for six years in the Army Guard, in addition to being one of the finest NCOs I have ever known, he pronounced his name Ga-Rand. No relation to Mister John, though.
mortablunt
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I pronounce it as guh-rannd.
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I guess you're trying to say: 'Peace of the brave joy'?
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I guess you're trying to say: 'Peace of the brave joy'?
amd6547
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I will continue to pronounce it the way father did...Guh-rand. My dad was a WWII vet, and used an M1 Garand in combat in Europe.
I will always remember the look on his face when, at around age 80, I took him to my basement and handed him the M1 Garand I had just bought...like he was seeing a long lost friend.
I will always remember the look on his face when, at around age 80, I took him to my basement and handed him the M1 Garand I had just bought...like he was seeing a long lost friend.
Know what you mean,.. My Dad was 26th Infantry WW2. I took mine to show him, and turned around, poured a cup of coffee, and when I turned again, he had it in a million pieces on the table. I said " I hope to hell you remember how to reassemble that" He replied (scratching his head) "Me Too".
SharpsDressedMan
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My last name is Firis. Guess how many ways people pronounce it (hint: more than two, and usually about 90% wrong). I don't care anymore; why get worked up. Even when they pronounce it wrong, I know who they are talking about. A rose, by any other name.........
Devonai
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Rhymes with Iris, would be my guess.
Zach S
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I say "Gaerund", similar to "errand." Its nice to know I'm saying it right, but don't get worked up when someone says "Ga-Rand" because folks have been calling them "Ga-Rands" for a lot longer than I've been around.
I cant tell the guys that say "GaRand" they're wrong, I really dont have a leg to stand on in that argument. After all, I was born and raised in Dixie, where the proper pronunciation of Pepsi is "Coke."
Although, a Thompson in any configuration isn't as popular as Garands and M1 Carbines, so I've just got to the point where I wonder "Garand or Carbine?" even though I own a Thompson.
I cant tell the guys that say "GaRand" they're wrong, I really dont have a leg to stand on in that argument. After all, I was born and raised in Dixie, where the proper pronunciation of Pepsi is "Coke."
Yeah, when someone mentions an M1 in their post I find myself wondering which one they are talking about until later in the thread.
Although, a Thompson in any configuration isn't as popular as Garands and M1 Carbines, so I've just got to the point where I wonder "Garand or Carbine?" even though I own a Thompson.
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I refuse to take grammar lessons from someone who doesn't know the difference between "there" and "their."
Zach, what kinda Coke you want? Root beer?
Ignition Override
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I only pronounce it "C..M..P: See, Emm, Peh".
Maybe the shortage of "Service Grade" M-1s will be over soon (would like a second).
Garand is probably a French name and it's possible because the guy was born in Canada. Examples: gourmand, Ferrand, grand...
We could be like some of the scholastic medieval Europeans who debated how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.
Boanerges57: Most of us might understand almost nothing from tenth century England, whether Anglo-Saxon or ancient Danish, probably still spoken then in the former Danelaw (eastern England) or "Yorkshire".
The author of the "Lord of the Rings" did, as JRR Tolkien was a Professor of Anglo-Saxon at Oxford.
Beowulf and Sir Gawain****were some of his inspirations for the Rings.
Maybe the shortage of "Service Grade" M-1s will be over soon (would like a second).
Garand is probably a French name and it's possible because the guy was born in Canada. Examples: gourmand, Ferrand, grand...
We could be like some of the scholastic medieval Europeans who debated how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.
Boanerges57: Most of us might understand almost nothing from tenth century England, whether Anglo-Saxon or ancient Danish, probably still spoken then in the former Danelaw (eastern England) or "Yorkshire".
The author of the "Lord of the Rings" did, as JRR Tolkien was a Professor of Anglo-Saxon at Oxford.
Beowulf and Sir Gawain****were some of his inspirations for the Rings.
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Sport45
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See 'em pee?
I'd rather not...
Loosedhorse
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Héclair and Cotch? Or Aitch Khay?
Zach S. everyone knows the proper pronunciation of either Coke or Pepsi is "Sodee Water"!!!
I was sitting here mouthing out Garand and depending on how I move my mouth and purse my lips it comes out "Guh-Rand" or "Gah-Rand"
I have no idea where the Canucks are getting "Rund" from the spelling "Rand" but I imagine that is what makes them Canadians,
Gives 'em something else to argue aboot,,,
I was sitting here mouthing out Garand and depending on how I move my mouth and purse my lips it comes out "Guh-Rand" or "Gah-Rand"
I have no idea where the Canucks are getting "Rund" from the spelling "Rand" but I imagine that is what makes them Canadians,
Gives 'em something else to argue aboot,,,
Zach S. everyone knows the proper pronunciation of either Coke or Pepsi is "Sodee Water"!!!
It is soda pop to me, but I am from the mid-west. Pop to my St. Louis relatives.
Down Atlanta way, it is just Coke regardless if it is Coke, Pepsi, Sprite, Dr. Pepper, Barq's or whatever flavored carbonated water drink.
Except when consuming a Moon Pie, then it has to be an RC.
I think I will avoid the issue and call it the M1 Rifle. But that would be swimming against the tide, I suppose.
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And "Lee-a-pold", too....
If anything, succeeding generations never get it right. It's one thing to be fluent in a language, and quite another to be grammatically accurate.
Try selling car parts to an older gentleman of Spanish language background, and having his 13 year old granddaughter translate. Sure, I'l sell him a magazine for his M1 Grand if I worked a gun store, same as to the next good ol' boy waiting his turn in line.
Funny, when money's on the countertop, there's no misunderstanding at all. That's the reality of it. Like, "dialing" the pizza joint for takeout. Really? Got an app for that, too? Did it come with a finger stop and a strip of Command adhesive? How do you scroll around that little booger hook with your big one?
"American" is the most accommodating language in the world.
Try selling car parts to an older gentleman of Spanish language background, and having his 13 year old granddaughter translate. Sure, I'l sell him a magazine for his M1 Grand if I worked a gun store, same as to the next good ol' boy waiting his turn in line.
Funny, when money's on the countertop, there's no misunderstanding at all. That's the reality of it. Like, "dialing" the pizza joint for takeout. Really? Got an app for that, too? Did it come with a finger stop and a strip of Command adhesive? How do you scroll around that little booger hook with your big one?
"American" is the most accommodating language in the world.
mortablunt
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Ist Heckler und Coke, or Ha und Ka.
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Reminds me of all the weirdos correcting me on how to pronounce Moto Guzzi... Mostly to advance a particular and personal preference of theirs. Regardless of whether or not one version is correct or not, after spend many, many thousands on both Guzzis and Garands - thanks for the correction - I'll keep exercising my right to refer to my devices in the manner to which I've become accustomed.
As far as the name and the attached family goes - within my own family (regarding our family name) there are at least 3 different pronunciations which come up at most every family gathering and a definitive version has never been universally agreed upon.
I fall back on the position that there is in fact no incorrect pronunciation if all letters are accounted for and in the proper order and in fact go further in stating that the way in which most folk want to correct me regarding Garand would require a double R in the name.
As far as the name and the attached family goes - within my own family (regarding our family name) there are at least 3 different pronunciations which come up at most every family gathering and a definitive version has never been universally agreed upon.
I fall back on the position that there is in fact no incorrect pronunciation if all letters are accounted for and in the proper order and in fact go further in stating that the way in which most folk want to correct me regarding Garand would require a double R in the name.
essayons21
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I don't go to Canada and complain when they talk funny and "mispronounce" words relative to the normal american English pronunciation.
So when a Canadian slaps his name on an American rifle, I'm not going to complain that southern and western GIs aren't saying it right.
I'm pretty sure you could take the name Smith and travel all around this country and hear a dozen different pronunciations. In some parts of Appalachia and the Deep South it becomes a 2-3 syllable word.
So when a Canadian slaps his name on an American rifle, I'm not going to complain that southern and western GIs aren't saying it right.
I'm pretty sure you could take the name Smith and travel all around this country and hear a dozen different pronunciations. In some parts of Appalachia and the Deep South it becomes a 2-3 syllable word.
bearman49709
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I knew two brothers who pronounced their last name differently.
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