Prudent or Paranoid?

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I prefer to keep a weapon at hand, rather than several stashed throughout the place. My place is a one bedroom apartment, so not too big anyway.

At the end of the day, it's a personal decision, and I don't see any amount of pro/con points swaying anyone who's already set in their ways.
 
I am going to type the following statement more slowly and in bigger letters:

I am expressing my opinions.

I am not stating facts or figures.
 
Posted by buck460XVR: If and should are the two key words there, and the probability of it happening and the risk it COULD involve, needs to be compared to the probability of it not happening within each individual's situation/lifestyle.
The likelihood that a violent criminal actor will invade one's home while a resident is in it is remote at best, for most people.

Someone looking for jewelry or something else that can be readily fenced (copper pipe is the really big draw where I live these days--several incidents occur each week) would prefer to enter an unoccupied home than one in which the residents are home. That's why most break-ins occur in mid day when people are at work.

So--if the perps are in that game, they will either opt for a different target if they realize that someone is at home; come back later if they are seeking something specific, for example if they have been tipped off by a repair man or have been in the house before and know what they are looking for; or, of course, they may not realize that someone is at home and come in. The last of these has happened to me.

That's not the only kind of criminal out there, however. If a couple of crooks need a great deal of money right now, the best way to get it is to take one person to an ATM while holding another hostage.

And of course, if they are on the run and low on gas and there is no other house around....

I have a good friend that is a captain in the local PD. ... He replied that in our town of 11,000 there has never been a home invasion(by a complete stranger) that led to the death of a homeowner in the 30 years he has been a LEO.
That is true in my city of 24,000 people also. However, a number of criminals have been deterred here by homeowners with guns, including me.

He also told me that studies show, you are more likely to be killed in your home by your own gun, either by accident or someone you know, than by a home invasion by a complete stranger.
I really doubt that he can substantiate that.

Back when the notoriously ant-gun J. Edgar Hoover headed the FBI, the government published some findings that alleged that people were more likely to shoot a friend or family member than a burglar. The intended conclusion was that having a gun is more likely to make on less safe than more safe.

It was not until people started digging into the statistics that it became clear that that statistic included people who had known each other in any capacity at all before the shootings occurred--which just happens to include the victims in just about every drug related crime that has ever occurred!

The stats were later further distorted by those who publicized the number of children killed by guns. Guess what: that included anyone nineteen and under, and a lot of violent criminals shot by police officers fall into that category.

But the real fallacy in the argument is that if a gun is not used to shoot someone, it has not served its purpose. Enough said. For more, go here.

In any kind of risk management, the likelihood of occurrence of risk is but one factor. The severity of the potential consequence is equally important. I consider the likelihood of my ever needing to even threaten to employ deadly force to be remote. However, I consider the consequence of being attacked to be very severe indeed.

So, the decision at hand is to either accept the risk or to try to mitigate it. That's true whether the analysis has to do with smoke detectors, fire extinguishers, surge protectors, or--you name it

It just tells me I need to be prudent and use good judgement. Just because one has lots of guns, does not make them more prepared than the man with one. There's a lot more to it than that.
Well said, and if one's firearm is one's first line of home protection, one has a lot of work to do!
 
He also told me that studies show, you are more likely to be killed in your home by your own gun, either by accident or someone you know, than by a home invasion by a complete stranger.

I really doubt that he can substantiate that.

Back when the notoriously ant-gun J. Edgar Hoover headed the FBI, the government published some findings that alleged that people were more likely to shoot a friend or family member than a burglar. The intended conclusion was that having a gun is more likely to make on less safe than more safe.

It was not until people started digging into the statistics that it became clear that that statistic included people who had known each other in any capacity at all before the shootings occurred--which just happens to include the victims in just about every drug related crime that has ever occurred!

Again, my LEO friend acknowledged this by the last two words in my quote......a "complete stranger". Casual and close friends, ex-boyfriends/girlfriends, prior drug deals and other partners in crimes are not "complete strangers" that invade your house by mere chance. Those type of invasions are predetermined and planned either by greed, jealousy or revenge. My friend did not give me the source of his statistics, but he did refer to most of the gun-related deaths in the 4 county area in the last few years. Of the victims involved, that were killed in their home, most of them knew their attacker. Many of the victims opened the door for their assailant. One of the few exceptions was a young girl killed in her home by a gang related drive by shooting.....not really a home invasion that could be deterred by having a gun at arms length in every room. I agree that statistical evidence can be manipulated to prove most anything. Real life evidence is much more visible and harder to manipulate. Again, this is how things are where I live. I know it is not how things are everywhere. Just because I do not have bars on my doors and windows......does not mean there are areas where that is not an option.

Funny thing was, this same friend told me that 90% of the calls he responds to, other than traffic incidents are due to three things. Alcohol, drugs and jealousy. He said if you take those three things outta the picture, his life would be very dull.



In any kind of risk management, the likelihood of occurrence of risk is but one factor. The severity of the potential consequence is equally important. I consider the likelihood of my ever needing to even threaten to employ deadly force to be remote. However, I consider the consequence of being attacked to be very severe indeed.

I agree. As I said in my last post, my SD/HD guns are not unloaded and locked in the safe either. I also have a large dog that altho not a chronic barker, lets it be known whenever someone is close or there is a sound in the night. I feel he is as much of a deterrent to the random invasion than all of my guns.
 
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I am going to type the following statement more slowly and in bigger letters:

I am expressing my opinions.

I am not stating facts or figures.
Let me correct a flaw in your current argument. We aren't attacking your opinion,

It's a response based upon the fact that you don't have the right to characterize those of us with differing opinions as paranoid.

You may feel that bringing a knife to what MAY end up as a gunfight - shows proper restraint and decorum - but to many it means you won't be prepared.

Your response will only work if you've been given enough information to properly diagnose the threat. My response works when I don't think my government will be capable of meeting such HUGE commitments - and if it becomes big enough to meet the commitments it is now making - it will be too big (and as we have been warned "any government big enough to give you what you need, is also big enough to take it away from you...")

My response will make sure I have the proper response to a fight I don't want to have in the first place.

bad guys do bad things - when bad guys gain a lot of power they do a lot of bad things and create the environment for many bad men to get away with a lot of bad things.

...if you've ever been responisble for others, and guessed wrong - you won't ever put yourself in that position again.

but it doesn't really bother me in the least that you have moved away from the threat to a nice quiet place where the threat level is lower (yet still have a gun secreted upon your person)...for now.

Some of us don't have the ability to simply uproot and move away from bigger threats - that means our response to bigger threats, must be...well...bigger.

See, you started from a position where you implied that either you were prudent (for owning ONE pistol, secreted on your person, and one hidden away for later), or we were paranoid (for having multiple weapons, stashed in various locations)...your subsequent responses force me to conclude that you are either naiive, or misinformed, perhaps you could clear that up for me now?
 
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