Pump Action .22

[RugerMcMarlin]

I think you have me confused with somebody else. My statement in favor of the Remington 121 is my opinion. And I COULD NOT CARE LESS if you agree. The statement stands. You go figure out why you spent so much more, I don't care.

 

[NWCP]

Find yourself a Winchester Model 61. They are a great shooting pump and reliable as all get out... at least the one I've owned forever is.

 

[elano]

Funny you should post this. I just picked up a sears pump action 22 for $100 out the door yesterday. It has a 24" barrel and seems to shoot fine. High Standard is the company that made it for sears, their name version is called the sport king p1011. Seems to work fine as long as you work the action quickly. Just look around for a deal, I've been looking for about a month and saw this one sitting on the shelf a couple days ago.

As for the Model 61, my dad's winchester outshoots my new 22 hands down. The signts are much finer and it never has a hickup no matter what ammo, lr or short. Extremely fun gun to shoot since it's so easy to hit what you're aiming for. The quality of this gun is top notch and I doubt one as fine will ever be made. I had no idea they were so valuable until I saw one sitting on a pawn shop shelf and the guy wouldn't let me handle one because it was a "collectable anitique". They seem to go for 500 and on up to over 1000 depending on condition. Worth it though if you have that kind of money to spend on one.

 

[RugerMcMarlin]

P-32 I was clearly out of line, I went back and read my post and your post, and I really don't have any right to think the way I did. I thought you were attacking me for my opinion, and I got defensive. I can see now you were asking for my help, so I looked up the model 61 pump Winchester and I'm just gonna assume its so damn good its 100%. Book says it worth 700.00 Book says some of them had grooved receivers too. Made about 343, 000 total and it says right here in fine print (value has nothing to do with supply. Its twice as expensive, as a Remington 121 because its twice as good). Blue Book.

 

[P-32]

Ruger Sorry if you think I was out of line. But but your comment hit a sore spot (not the best)as I've been around The Remington's far longer than the Winchester. I was like wow, how did I miss the 61 for so many years? Just fun to shoot and the bullets go where the sights are. Also, I beg forgivness as I'm only a month out of a stroke and just glad I'm here. I may not have been as tender as I normally am. However, like you I too can have my own opinion and this was all it was. You may continue to believe what you believe because I don't care either. I was only trying to point out the 61 is a neat little rifle. The 61 was Winchesters answer the the Rem 12. Life is too short to get hurt over a ford vs. Chevy thing. Yeah, I own Remingtons too.

 

[RugerMcMarlin]

Apology Accepted.
I counted 7 guys in this thread ahead of me that said they thought the
Remington Fieldmaster was the best. I cant see how the way I stated it was more offensive than the others. If you read my post you'll note I recommended the Winchester 61. Along with the 62 and 06. I'm a little surprised to hear the phrase " I was like wow...from a guy your age. Just doesn't seem to fit. Makes me wonder if your yankin me. But, I am sorry to hear about your stroke, I hope you get to feeling better. When you do we can go at it again. Bucko

 

[foghornl]

Only pump .22 I hae shot is a Winchester (IIRC) that blongs to ex-sister in-law.

It shot .22 Longs, not .22 Long Rifle...minute of soda-can accurate out to about 65-70Yds...that is all I could do with with it with my very near-sighted-eyes (Yeah, when lenses were all glass, I had the "Coke Bottle Bottom" lenses..sorta greenish

 

[DM~]

If you want to scope it, get a 60s vintage 572 Remington. They are more accurate than the new ones. I had a new one for about a month. If you dont intend to scope it its fine, but its not accurate enough to bother scoping. I mean the scope shows how big the groups are. I think they chambered it like it was an automatic, loose and sloppy.

Maybe you could explain to me then, why my "automatic" (552) is so accurate???

DM

 

[crestoncowboy]

I agree with the win62 or the taurus/rossi 62 if you want a thin lightweight pump 22, the remington 572 is a bigger more modern design but doesnt look or feel like a gallery gun, it just depends what you want it for I guess. I have a few henry lever guns and I havent had a problem with them but if you take them all apart you will see that they are buit almost completly from some crappy alloys instead of solid metal componets, Will they last? maybe but Im betting on the real metal in the winchesters and even the taurus 62.

 

[SwampWolf]

Another vote for the Taurus rendition of the Winchester Model 62. You get a cool, classic rifle at an affordable price that you won't be afraid to use for fear you might detract from the collector condition status.

 

[Aren't we all]

+1 For the Henry, was given one and have about 50,000 .22 rds down the barrel

It is a little worn down now... But still shoots pretty well..

 

[RugerMcMarlin]

DMsquigle, If I cared more about it I would ask what "so accurate"was. I don't know maybe QC at Remington has slipped enough one got by. In the past the pumps in general were more accurate than their auto. Anxious to hear your theory.

I read my quote and agree when isolated as a stand alone statement it might cause consternation. I should have known that any one with and Rem. auto and a full load of Viagra was going to go after it. It might be that you've heard there is a difference between a sporting chamber and a match chamber. And that some manufacturers have found it necessary to increase chamber dimensions in a rifle that loads solely off the recoil a 22 is able to produce. There is an excellent article in one of the GUN DIGESTS, I not going to say the author was an ultimate authority, but he did take the trouble to measure chambers and their respective groups, and record them. I was going to quote you the article, so you would spend the afternoon looking for it. But my evil plan backfired I wasted an hour looking for it myself.

 

[dmeador]

Glad to hear good things about the remy 572. Just acquired one yesterday that was made in either 1955 or 1957 (the barrel stamp is not totally legible). When I disassembled it for cleaning, it looked like it had 50 plus years of gunk built up! Now to get it to the range.

 

[RugerMcMarlin]

dmeador, I wish I still had mine, same vintage, try it with shorts or CB caps, its incredible. I think they came out about 55or56.

 

[wrench]

If I could only have one, I think it'd be my Remington 121. Was scoped when I bought it, it really is a super little gun.

 

[P-32]

I'm a little surprised to hear the phrase " I was like wow...from a guy your age. Just doesn't seem to fit. Makes me wonder if your yankin me.

I have to lnow someone before I'll yank their chain. I also try my best not to spout BS. If you have to know I've been way interested in Win 52's for a few years and never had bothered with a 61 untill a couple of months ago. There is always the Rem 12. My Speedmaster is the one who followed me out the door prior to the 61. I think my next victim will be a Win 9422 in 22 Mag.

 

[Maverick223]

+1 for the Remington Model 12 (any variation...to include the M-121), unless you absolutely have to have a new rifle...in which case I reluctantly vote for the Henry (which is not a bad rifle, but not as good as the classics IMO). ...and before someone gets their panties in a twist, the Winchester M-61 isn't a bad rifle either, and is almost a copy of the Remmy M-12, but the lines aren't quite as nice IMO (whereas the model 12 is streamlined like a jet)...nor is the price.

 

[RugerMcMarlin]

j56, YADA

 

[RugerMcMarlin]

p32 I think the Winchester model 61 chambered for 22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire is one of the best 22 mag rifles ever, and I think the first in that cartridge. 9422 mag also, And I would love to have one. Better?

 

[Jspy]

I thought I might see someone mention the Browning "trombone" in this thread. I've have one and find it to be pretty good, similar to both the 121 and the 61. As far as those rifles go I feel like they are kind of a "Pete", "Repeat" situation. There again I have both and don't see a lot of difference in them. My feeling is that the 121 is a poor mans version of the 61.

 

[P-32]

p32 I think the Winchester model 61 chambered for 22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire is one of the best 22 mag rifles ever, and I think the first in that cartridge. 9422 mag also, And I would love to have one. Better?

My FINL had a 61 in 22 mag that my BIL decided he wanted after the FinL passed, leaving me with a Pre 64 in 300 H7H. . The FINL's 61 looked like it had gone from the box to the safe with the 300 close behind. I never got a chance to shoot the 61.

Checking Gun Broker, it appears I can afford the 9422 a little better than a Mag 61. I understand the 9422 and the 61 share simular ways of pulling a new cartridge from the mag ang putting the cartridge in the chamber.

 

[ulflyer]

Shucks, and here I sit with my old turn of century Win '06 pump. Smooth as butter, brown patina, and still has good bore. Trouble is, my eyes, nearly as old as the gun, can't see those fine sights anymore. Took couple shots the other day at some Starlings in back yard, maybe 20 yds away, and all I got was a hole in the bird feeder!

 

[trex1310]

I have the Henry .22 magnum pump. It is very accurate and nice wood.

 

[Smokey in PHX]

I have an older Remington Fieldmaster BDL, which I bought used years ago in Montgomery County, PA. Gun was like new, very accurate, and never had a problem with it even after thousands of rounds through it. I have also fired the Winchesters and they also were great as many have stated. There are a lot of choices out there for a good rifle.

 

[moonpie]

i've had the rossi 62sac for several years now and i'ts the most fun i've had with a rimfire . i won't call it a gallery gun though because it only chambers long rifle. it's true to the winchester design so there aren't many options for adding optics , tri-focals and skimpy sights have pretty much shelved it. i'm giving the henry serious consideration but i wish someone would offer a clip fed slidearm .